im not an attorney and i could not record the hearing, so please forgive me if i make mistakes in relating what i remember of the oral argument hearing for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society on january 14, 2015 and the length of this post.. i arrived at the civic center/union plaza in san francisco, ca about 7:30. the area is very nice with a few homeless people sleeping in the park across from the courthouse.
it took me about 10 minutes to find the clerks office for the court on the first floor, which opened at 8:00.. once the clerks office opened, the two clerks who i talked with were very polite and helpful.
the arguments for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society were scheduled 5th out of (i think) 8. while i was in the office a cameraman and another person for nbc arrived asking about the hearing for candace contis case.. the courtroom for the 1st appellate court is on the 4th floor and takes up most of that floor.
Why did ABC & NBC want to record this? Seemed uneventful from a media aspect and costly to do & not that interesting for the general public yet at this point. Of course, the final decision may be news worthy, hopefully.
Don't Courts do their own recordings sometimes, not with 'media?'
with hopefully a good deal of interest here in the conti appeal tomorrow (or later today, depending on where you are), i thought that on my ride home from work tonight i'd preview what to expect and what i think the key issues are for any who are interested.
i have had a busy few weeks and haven't had time to read everything, but i had some time to look at the appeal briefs during my work commute the past couple days.
it'll be interesting to see what develops out of the network news coverage of this case.
conti appeal hearing-summary of watchtowers complaint of errors with plaintiff's reply.
the following statements were taken from the introduction of respondents brief a136641 -attorney richard simons' response for plaintiff.
defendants argue that the affirmative duty imposed by the trial court impinges on their religious freedom.
Oral arguments are suppose to be just 10-15 min. each side. Not to be just more repeat of what had been said already. Judge could ask question(s). So normally short, possibly intense. Then, sometimes, something could be extended, but rarely. Then, the decision is to normally be done within 90 days or less, normally. (From what I have read, but I am not an authority, perhaps someone else clarify more?)
conti appeal hearing-summary of watchtowers complaint of errors with plaintiff's reply.
the following statements were taken from the introduction of respondents brief a136641 -attorney richard simons' response for plaintiff.
defendants argue that the affirmative duty imposed by the trial court impinges on their religious freedom.
http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.
12/19/2014order filed.
upon due consideration, the media request of applicant abc news to make a video recording of oral argument in the above-referenced appeal is granted.
So, can we expect ABC to report/air anything partially next Wed. with Court approval? It would only involve the lawyers there to be videoed/heard by the Court. Hopefully, soon after we will get a site somewhere for the 'full' report.
Thereafter, I understand, the Court has up to 90 days for decision. Hopefully less.
i would really like be able to hear/see the "oral arguments" of this case!
does anyone know how we may be able to access this?
case #a136641.
I would really like be able to hear/see the "Oral Arguments" of this case! Does anyone know how we may be able to access this? Can anyone help me to get that?
Case #A136641.
p.s.
Thank you Simon for helping me to be able to get back in here.
I have window 8 & do not like it,,so I use my phone,,to check the jw news here,, I only hear from ones that they don't like it either
this is what i found at anointedjw.org.
i don't know if it's true.
on august 25, 2014, we received the following comment and inquiry: .
I have so much respect for Ed Dunlap & Ray Franz as they chose not to die with a crisis of conscience. But stood by truth, and chose not to stand quietly to their death, but chose to have their freedom of truth, mind & heart. They chose to walk away from any 'glory of men' and Bethel comforts. For any GB or their 'helpers' with a crisis of conscience, their silence or 'winking' at Headquarters practices, and misrepresentations will only bring misery to them as they age. I will not have sympathy for them. I feel sorry for some of their hurting little ones who don't know better,,those trusting but weary and mostly miserable.
"las obligaciones que este nuevo regimen fiscal nos pide: llevar de manera electronica un registro de todas sus operaciones de ingresos y egresos; tener documentacion comprobatoria de cada operacion, acto o actividad; enviar informe contable mensual a traves de la pagina del sat; expedir comprobante fiscal digital por internet (cfdi).".
http://www.elsiglodedurango.com.mx/noticia/535395.con-el-nuevo-regimen-fiscal-la-iglesia-catolica-pagara-impuestos-.html.
roughly traslated: the requirements of the new fiscal system require: to record electronically a ledge of all income and expenses; to record and document all operations, acts or activities, to send a registed monthly report through sat's (kind of like the irs in the us) website, submit comprobante fiscal digidtal por internet (cfdi) (sort of tax form) .
Guess Mexico won't be getting new KHs built much??
the us kingdom ministry shows the collective total 2014 memorial attendances of the countries that now comprise the us territory in 2014: 2,610,810.. those countries are: the usa, bermuda, jamaica, turks and caicos and puerto rico.. the same collective total for those same countries three years ago - 2011 - was 2,666,592.. that's a decrease of 55,782 from 2011 to 2014. i am happified.. while there has been the occasional year in which memorial attendances from one year to the next have shown decrease, this is a first: decline evident over a three-year period.. comments please!.
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anyone have the know how on how to provide the link for the kingdom ministry download?
To re-cap,,U.S. included territories:
Bahamas, Bermuda, Puerto Rico, Turks, Jamaica,,,
are U.S. Virgin Islands, British Virgin Islands, & Cayman also???
