Are their complaints just at the 'local' level? That was common even many years ago. But do they possibly still think 'but at the top' - at Bethel headquarters all is near 'perfect.'
Posts by Gayle
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17Too Much Discontent in Congregation Part 1
by Simon Templar ini am seeing and hearing many, many long-time jws openly expressing problems with either the watchtower society itself, the publications, changing doctrine, incorrectly living their lives as a result of bad doctrine, the behavior of the boe and other related things.
i will share some of these things in several posts, because there are just too many of them.
the complaints that i hear from publishers and pioneers are many.
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Brooklyn Bethel Tours Through The Roof
by freemindfade inwas speaking with someone last night who just recently toured the us bethel's.
the brooklyn tour i heard was awful, very limited and disappointing and conducted by a local pioneer and not even a bethelite.
well from what they are telling the folks on the tour since the tm3 bit encouraging (guilting) people about going to disneyland on vacation when you haven't visited bethel, monthly tours went from 6000 to 16000!
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Gayle
Are there any mini tours upstate at this time? Some curious to do a little drive north to Warwick, etc. too while they're in the state? -
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Possible reason for cancellation of book study in homes.
by Amelia Ashton inthis was posted on fb.. so guys, i'm gonna share something with you all that i think you should know.
i've only told two people about this (one being john cedars) for fear of getting this guy into trouble, but it's very telling and will reaffirm your "ttatt faith!
a couple of weeks ago, i had to have an "ability to protect" assessment by a gentleman from a company that also investigates child protection policies etc.
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Gayle
I suspect all this dismissing Bethelites, DOs/COs, and Special Pioneers has something to do with some legal status requirements for their long term aging and health care. -
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Kingdom Consolidation and Sales are coming – Reliable Source
by thedepressedsoul ini heard form a reliable source that a kingdom hall consolidation is going to be happening in the us.
currently they are looking at every kingdom hall to see if they could and should sell it.
any kingdom hall that has not been updated and is in a bad location (long driveway, not in a visible location etc...) will be sold.
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Gayle
I just checked "Yellow Pages" for Arizona. Kingdom Hall listings ( It didn't show double entries for multiple congs.). Showed 142 Kingdom Halls and one Assembly Hall. According to jw.org there's about 200 congs. in Arizona (for English & Spanish - about (very approximately), 10 or more for 'small' group congs. of other langs.) So that would be about 1.4 congs. per KH.
I checked all other U.S. states, through "Yellow Pages" and got 8,255 listings of KHs. I think could be close. That would put 1.7 congs per KH.
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Warwick to finish EARLY
by wifibandit inok, story time.. anon asks me via pm:.
just heard from a wallkill bethelite that warwick will finish early.
can you confirm?.
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Gayle
what properties in Brooklyn left to sell? weren't some sold but still with WT still 2017? -
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Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society
by James Jack ina older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.
also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.
i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.
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Gayle
isn't the wt corporation a "'non-stock' corporation? -
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Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society
by James Jack ina older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.
also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.
i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.
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Gayle
I, too, have heard (decades ago) some shareholders were not even JWs. was perplexed then and still am. Why would anyone be a shareholder, not a member of the organization (or any other such business, religion, etc.) and have no monetary interest, or any other interest in such organization??? Why would they bother?! Just where is this list? -
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"..Witnesses suffer from anxiety, depression, addiction...many have been lost to suicide. After reading this story, you may understand why.”
by Penelope1 infrom the book, the least of gods priorities, by bo juel.
please support bo in his efforts to expose the truth about the watchtower organization a secretive and destructive cult posing as gods organization on earth.
his publication is now available in paperback or kindle through amazon.com.. check out chapter two--but grab some tissue first!.
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Gayle
Penelope, Yes thank you. I did also leave a comment on Amazon as well. -
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"Only Baptized Ones have Unrestricted Privilege of Prayer"
by BluesBrother ini was sitting at the recent circuit assembly that i attended, (the things i do for sis blues) and the baptism talk was under way .
i admit that my mind was more on my imminent packed lunch and flask of coffee but i distinctly heard the speaker make the statement that heads this thread and cite a wt reference.. you what !
i was shocked....... how can they possibly make such an arrogant statement ?
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Gayle
God is their commodity! You have to pay them, your time, money, heart and soul, to get God. Your down payment is baptism. -
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"..Witnesses suffer from anxiety, depression, addiction...many have been lost to suicide. After reading this story, you may understand why.”
by Penelope1 infrom the book, the least of gods priorities, by bo juel.
please support bo in his efforts to expose the truth about the watchtower organization a secretive and destructive cult posing as gods organization on earth.
his publication is now available in paperback or kindle through amazon.com.. check out chapter two--but grab some tissue first!.
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Gayle
I just read Bo Juel's book, "The Least of God's Priorities." He did well writing about his JW youth with so much family disfunction (step-father and grandfather) and compounded with sexual abuse from elder. Amazing he came through it and a lot of his processes. He only felt all those years he had to be silent, as a youth and even as an adult. Now he is "pro-active" about the exposure of the Watchtower abuse policy toward youth.
It takes a lot of survivor development to leave the WT world when raised JW and compounded when there's been sexual abuse too. I recommend the book. I have read most personal books of former JWs. We all have a true story. Some will write.