That was scary!! It felt strangely like on the edge of a riot!
Posts by Gayle
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81Elders and Attendants sing, clap and turn backs on Street Preacher after Duluth RC.
by ToesUp invery strange behavior by the attendants and elders after the duluth, ga, rc.
on the first link the attendants start to exit the arena, then line up and turn their backs on the street preachers.
(around the 6:00 mark).. elders and attendants after duluth rc.
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Gayle
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Shunning the Shunning
by Tallon infound this very interesting article on another site.
looks like there people, and at an assembly too, who are not afraid to show their displeasure to the inhumane policies of the org.. http://avoidjw.org/2016/08/shunning-the-shunning/.
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Gayle
How can a culture that depends on 'family' in every way accept such an evil doctrine! A mother depends on her family in her later years more in these cultures. It goes against all natural affection of a mother to shun her own.
I expect or hope this 'shunning' doctrine to be a 'near' downfall of the WT. The ice-cold hearted GB certainly don't care about mankind, family survival, and those who are in much lower economics.
I hope that many JW Ghanians will find this the last straw on considering any 'loyalty' to the GB.
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My Lawyers Letter To The Elders
by pale.emperor infor those of you that asked, below is a copy of my solicitors letter to the elders in my old congregation.
he sent a similar one directly to bethel and a medical directive to my daughters gp to go on her medical records that i have already given permission for her to have a blood transfusion should she need one:.
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Gayle
I have understood that if anything "legal" by an attorney is given the to local elders, they must turn over info to Headquarters. Then, there is a protocol between attorneys to be followed. Is there anything in the Elders book stating to do that?
The couple cases I know from long ago, that the individuals then were never announced 'on the platform' as "disfellowshipped, disassociated." Though, they were 'off the record' df'd, at least some family members and a few friends felt they could be free to talk with ex-member yet because of no announcement.
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Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)
by TimeBandit inthis is a true story.
it's about a sister named henriette venema.
she was a very loyal jw.
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Gayle
Oh my! I knew Henni & Max. What a surprise to read this, this morning!! We were in the same congregation, a Milpitas, CA cong in mid '60s. She was newly baptized and Max got baptized soon after. They had that "new zeal" for sure! I was reg. pio. (the only one back then in that cong.) and Henni went with me in service a lot.
In Indonesia, during WWII, Henni and her two sisters had to go to a camp being half "Dutch." Their Indonesian mother didn't have to go but went to protect her daughters. Her mother made Henni and her sisters to look as ugly as possible for fear of any Japanese soldiers. Henni said her mother was always warning her to not look at the Japanese soldiers in the eye - as Henni, with a smile, was definitely not the type to be 'submissive.'
One day, while driving, Henni and I were talking about things of pagan origin, and I mentioned that even wedding rings were of pagan origin. Suddenly, Henni took off her wedding ring and threw it out the window. I was shocked and told her all JWs wear wedding rings. She wouldn't let me go back to try to find it. Fortunately, Max loved his wife immensely! Clearly, they were one of the most bonded couples I have ever known.
In '67, I moved to where the need was greater in northern CA. Soon after that the Venemas moved to Ecuador to serve there. In the early '70s , an American missionary girl from Ecuador came to Bethel for a brief while (in between assignments) and expressed that the Venemas were successful with the Ecuadoran people as they blended and helped many with the "truth." She said they were more successful than missionaries. Later, they had to moved back to CA as Henni got an amoeba, and very, very sick.
I lost track about them as the rest of family moved out of state. I expect they had heard we all left the org. My brother got word from some of his friends, who left JWdom also, that many were shocked that we (all 5 kids) left.
I want to say, Venemas were outstandingly loving and generous people, a whole hearted kind of people.
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Availability Crisis of Conscience.
by Ben131895 inmost of us are desperately waiting for the availability of a legal crisis of conscience.
deborah dykstra provided us with two updates.
on december 12, 2015 there was a clear statement about the copyright which stopped all illegal activity in spreading electronic versions & prints.. finally, she promised a new update by or before may 6.. so far no new update.
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Gayle
I think with all the WT literature we read/studied for 'years,' we need all we can get or a lot of these WT exposure books to unravel the WT cobwebs that stunted our mental growth for so long.
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This Music Video Needs to be Spread
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inin 97 i was 19 and still at home.
i was a jw to the core then believing the religion because it was presented as scientifically accurate.
this song was played on vancouver radio stations... i heard of it and saw it on cable tv and laughed thinking it was a bad example of jws.
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Gayle
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Listen to "Soldier`s Boy" ![]()
Spirit Of The West
Weights And Measures
Soldier's Boy
(Kelly/Mann)
Dragged in his fathers footsteps
Onto other people's doorsteps
To shoe-gaze through another afternoon
He's well turned out, his pants are pressed
He's dripping in his Sunday best
As the sun beats down in time to the sound
Of his father going on about the problems of the world
While Kevin stands uncounted at the door
Will Kevin get to heaven any soner?
Will father ever bother looking down?
When he sees the light
He sees the light
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Rumor: Discouraging news from GB at upcoming CA?
by bohm inthis is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.
can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.
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Gayle
WT always has "shifty shiftings"
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Finally found a friend I can talk to
by StarTrekAngel inhe is an old friend that used to attend my congo.
he moved away closer to his parents at some point and we lost touch.
for a couple of years i did not hear anything from him.
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Gayle
Is his 'girlfriend' a JW? If not, his parents may try to witness to her, love bomb her & she eventually becomes a JW. This happens. 😞
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Morning Woship: Kenneth Flodin targets "apostates"
by Sanchy invideo is entitled "beware of deceit" he uses the letter of jude to show that current day apostates are deceitful and that they use "trickery" to and "twist facts" to try to "grab our mind".
warning: your head might explode.
especially past the 5:30 mark.
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Gayle
I expect there will be 'many' talks in the future about "apostates." "Apostates" are their #1 enemy above the U.N. and the Catholics Church anymore.
Flodin refers to a copy received by apostate source, of a WT copy about Russell's writings as "truth," and not needing the Bible. He says it was a manipulated copy done by apostates.
Do any of you have that reference that he says is a lie?
Of course, the GB don't want anyone to know about the early writings of Russell and any facts of the early WT days.
On the other hand, since Flodin admits he checked this source, perhaps some will also try to verify any questionable sources too. (Of course, most JWs won't research anything.
