Flipper,
Your daughter will always love you, regardless of your views toward the org to which that she chooses continued association. It's good to hear that you've had some communication with her. Hope you have many more good conversations with her!
as many of you know , me and my fading 23 year old son have been trying to reach out to my polite 21 year old jw daughter .
sending cards, letters , phone calls just to let her know we love her, miss her , and remind her of good family times we've had in the past !
not being pushy - just being authentic with her !
Flipper,
Your daughter will always love you, regardless of your views toward the org to which that she chooses continued association. It's good to hear that you've had some communication with her. Hope you have many more good conversations with her!
just a heads up to anyone who might still attend the occasional meeting, there's gonna be a major guilt talk on the service meeting during the week starting april 7, 2008. it's entitled "why put off baptism?
" (kinda weirdly worded title if you ask me.
sounds like it would be a list of good reasons to put it off.
I can relate. I got baptized under duress when I was 14, hardly an age where you have the experience in life and maturity to make such a life-impacting decision. How is small, young children getting dipped any different than infant baptism that the Borg used to constantly rail about in "Christendom"?
i am, my dad is doing it, i'm going to their hall theyve just moved there (to 'help' out).
i figured its the one meeting i can't miss as i upset them by not going to any others at all, also ive made a point of not going to my hall and i won't let anyone know i'm at my dads.
my dad is actually worried i might 'be apostate' about it, as i once said surely passing on the bread and wine is like saying 'no thanks jesus!
Going...of course we all know the talk by rote..blah blah blah..., but there's usually a 'new twist' at the end, like some kind of hook line to get everyone's interest piqued into coming to the 'special talk'
during an economic down turn wealthy investors put their faith in gold.does anybody know of a strongroom at bethel containing gold bars.you know just for an emergency in case they have to go underground during the great persecution.or do they just rely on stocks, shares and property.
they don't put all their eggs in one or two baskets do they?
just thought of another question.who will get all the gold and silver in the new world and what will it be used for?.
The org DOES have investments, and I would not be surprised at all if part of their portfolio is in precious metals. Every smart investor has at least a small portion of their money invested in it.
...then check this out!.
(of course the society has $billions in real estate, but many have speculated that they are low on cash for day-day operations).. unfortunately i don't have a working scanner, but here is a summary of & a few quotations from a boe letter dated march 1, 2008:.
"for an number of years, an arrangement has been available to congregations to place funds on deposit with the branch office.
Wow...thanks for the info.
http://www.infowars.com/?p=804.
gold at $1,110.
oil at $110.
I agree w/ Highlander. The economic malaise this country endured in the late '70's under Carter makes today's situation look like boom times. Evidently we've got a lot of young'uns that simply either were not around or were not old enough to remember those times--double digit inflation and interest rates, gas lines, Iran hostage crisis, gold at $850.00/ spot ounce(which in todays dollars would be OVER $2000/00/ounce when adjusted for inflation).
my jw niece quit college a short time ago and didn't finish her degree, which she seems very excited about and took on a menial job, which she doesn't too happy about, according to my father.
my father (not a jw) is wondering what happened and if it is possibly something "the church" is now promoting.
when my daughter went to a 2 year college i had some negative comments from those in the congo.
Barbara,
I believe the worm first turned in November 1988, in a wt article, not in '92. I know because I was in Brooklyn at the time. Supposedly Lloyd Barry was trying to liberalize the stand the society was taking on Higher Ed and the sentiment was in his favor. However, after his untimely death, the Ted Jaracz stranglehold began and things reverted back to the old ways--anyone pursuing a college education need not apply for opportunities for advancement in he congregation. In other words, you were black balled like back in the old times....
would you rather work in a unionized or non-unionized environment?
the place where i work recently voted 'no', we don't want a union in here (after being harassed by a very large union for the last 5 years).
there were some who voted 'yes', but the majority of us voted 'no' and those that were pro-union are quite pissed off that the rest of us 'fail to see the light'.
Unions=strikes, picket lines, violence, mob(organized crime) involvement/corruption, exhorbitant union dues, adversarial management/employee relations, lazy union bosses and union hall staff that survive off the sweat of others, and profit drain/job killer on great companies.
would you rather work in a unionized or non-unionized environment?
the place where i work recently voted 'no', we don't want a union in here (after being harassed by a very large union for the last 5 years).
there were some who voted 'yes', but the majority of us voted 'no' and those that were pro-union are quite pissed off that the rest of us 'fail to see the light'.
XJW4evr,
I could not agree more. Generally, I have no problem with the trade unions(plumbers/pipefitters, electricians, carpenters, etc.) , I guess because you don't often hear of them going(or threatening to go) on strike, and they represent people that actually have some desperately needed skills in today's workforce. But outside of that, I too am virulently anti-union. Unions have outlived their purpose and now only exist to enrich a few select people i.e. the union bosses in Washington DC-- corrupt socialists like John Sweeney, Rich Trumpka, and Ron Getelfinger. Back when unions were in their heyday 50 yrs ago, there were no laws on the books to protect workers from abuses. That is no longer the case. I work in a nonunion environment and it's harder to fire someone where I work than some places that I know are unionized. Also, unions are killing what used to be great businesses in this country. One of the their biggest constituencies, the UAW, has almost singlehandedly drove the auto business into the ground, by trying to insist that the these fine companies continue to pay people that no longer work for them. Detroit is quickly becoming a wasteland and auto jobs are coming down to the nonunionized South, where the quality of life is great and nonunion auto workers still make union scale wages(25.00-30.00/hr, the last time i checked) and great benefits, without having to pay union dues and put up with the crap that you get with union representation.
I especially take issue with the poster directly ahead of me, trying to blame "bitchy customers" for his bad attitude at work. You need to be reminded that the REASON you have a job at that grocery store is THAT PAYING CUSTOMER. Businesses, whether its a grocery store or auto assembly plant, only exist because of CUSTOMERS.
ok, so i read what all of you would do with $200 million.
many of you posted something about playboy bunnies and the like....i think we'd all agree that hugh hefner has it made.
my college roommate used to believe that hugh hefner was god himself and i can understand his thinking.
Karl Marx