Posts by ElijahTheThird

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UN - NGO LIST 2001/2002- WTS INCLUDED

by hawkaw in

please note the new dpi list of ngos at the un.

you have seen the 1999-2000 and 1994 versions.

well here is the most recent list (and this is the last list you will see the wts name in the book seeing they were disassociated oct., 2001).

ElijahTheThird

uhhmmmmm if the governments turn on "religions" and destroy them,,, what is all the fuss? Or does anyone here realy think the Jdubs are NOT a religion? *LMAO*

Norval

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Prophet-erring

by anglise in

the following 2 articles taken from 2 awake issues show the selective amnesia of the wtbts.. interestingly it also shows their true view of the un yet again.. article 1.

*** g93 3/22 3-4 why so many false alarms?

why so many false alarms?.

ElijahTheThird

Yes, even if ALL the Jdubs survived. (ohh those so perfect elders at judgement even) then there would still only be 1 in 166,000 if indeed 1/3 of the human race survive.

uhh huh, uhh huh, uh huh,
Norval

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An Anointeds Concubine?

by ElijahTheThird in

that one in a position of responsibility for others, could a "minister / clergy / anointed / elder" be rightious in gods eyes in having a couple concubines besides the one wife?.

norval

ElijahTheThird

It is said there is councel in many. Hmmmm many wives, and or concubines would be good consule,, if you didnt have them from differing religions,,, LOL

Norval

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interesting hozison programme on bbc2 last week about how new evidence is coming out that there may be parallel universes that are "needed " to explain our own.. once prominent physicist belives our universe "borrows" gravity from another universe.. but what really is happeing in physics , can it really tell us the truth about our universe?.

it seems that a lot of physics is philosophy.you think of an idea that could explain phenonoma and then see if you can make it work with mathamatics.. but as more and more complex theories are coming forward and are used to explain how the universe works it seems that any grasp on the truth of the matter is getting further and further away.when you start invocking parallel universes to explain things where do you stop?.

it seems that at least for now the universe is unexplainable.even without parellel universes you still cannot explain the origin of the universe , were it came from or why it is here.which ever way you go you get to a point in which you can never test or measure to see if you are right.. if there are parallel universes then do these need other universes to explain them?.

ElijahTheThird

As I stare up at the night sky and think of the half a trillion stars in the galaxy I live in and then the half a trillion other galaxies in our know PHYSICAL universe,,, I have to ask,,,,,Isn't that enough to keep you occupied for a long enough time?

Norval

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Negative / positive

by ghenrymt in

i'm not sure what the appropriate area for this post might be.

maybe it is here, since i am going to ask about your personal beliefs and practices.. it is so easy to write negative posts abut the things we hate in religion, in people's mindsets, and in the world in general.

let's try posting about positive things.

ElijahTheThird

How God will make it a better world.
1. As we go for a 4 day work week God says work 6 and rest 1.

2. No voting! God appoints the Anointed, and they appoint those as they need help.

3. All the demons are locked up so they can't screw with our lives for the next thousand years. But we have all this crap to look forward to again at the end of that thousand years.

I can think of several more, but I just wanted to help get the ball rolling. *grins*

Norval

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Partaking of the emblems

by pralis in

i've always been curious as to the reasons why only "the anointed" were permitted to partake of the emblems at the memorial.

we all know that the wtbts says the "other sheep" are the non-anointed christians who merely observe the memorial (by the way, by "other sheep" jesus was talking about the gentiles that would become part of the new covenant; he wasn't referring to some strange class of non-anointed christians).

they've often compared the situation to the foreigners in the congregation of israel who were not permitted to observe the passover (see exodus 12:38, 43 -- they draw this correlation because the memorial is the replacement for the passover observance).

ElijahTheThird

Little children are seldom held responsible for improper usage of things till they are of age and maturity to understand. It is much like this with the so called "emblems".

When fully understood and made aware of the implications and what this really represents it becomes another mater entirley. It is wrote that those who are not truly called to be Anointed will be made sick! And if they persist in eating and drinking they become sicker and some may even die!

It is really very simple to recognize who has the calling of the Anointing and those that don't. The WTBTS and their GB may have recognized the first fruits, but they have trampled the "harvest" in doing so.

But it is all only a test of every ones integrity to our Father, and NOT to any corporation of man. The Saints don't need corporations or lands, just enough food for them and their families, a place to live, and clothes to wear. In otherwords the basics of life in comparison to their surroundings. What they can give in return for being cared for this way is their ability to render true justice and knowledge. It takes many sacrifices to aquire all that is needed to become Chosen, and not just "called"!

Norval

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Jehoiachin was taken captive before Jerusalem fell

by compton in

jehoiakin was taken captive before jerusalem fell.

the counting of the gentile times.

the 2520 days of years would begin with the first fall of jerusalem, correct ?

ElijahTheThird

Except for historicaly trying to set the record straight, the date really dosn't mater. The "time of the end is cut short on account of the Saints (Anointed) least ALL flesh be destroyed." That we can tell the time of "seasons" is all that is needed.
Makes these arguments moot!

Norval

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An Anointeds Concubine?

by ElijahTheThird in

that one in a position of responsibility for others, could a "minister / clergy / anointed / elder" be rightious in gods eyes in having a couple concubines besides the one wife?.

norval

ElijahTheThird

*vomits on aryan blues shoes*

Norval

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Brother now I am stumbled!

by Shane in

jw
friends

have you ever been so dam hurt from the things done to you in the so called gods organization that you wanted to just set down cry your guts out?.

i will list a few reasons but basically i feel that my reality has been denied to me as a young man growing up as a jw.. i was not taught to love god, but have excrement scared out of me if i did not do what they said, i too had an over bearing father who seemed to fit right in with jw's mind set.

i can still hear him now god rest his soul, he would say every morning if he happen to hear garner ted armstrong, honey listen they are robbing from the lords table.

ElijahTheThird

What can be said of all the many wrongs that have been done to so many in the name of god?, As I do love my Father very much for giving me this life. Many have felt these injustices and wrongs you mention. Hope and trust in that one day you may look back on all of it and not stand for it being done again! You have learned a great lesson, learn and keep going.

Norval

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Can you answer this please?

by sleepy in

yesturday my wife bumped into one of our former friends from the hall.. she tried to discuss a few points with him but as she hasn't done much research herself was a bit stuck when he told her that the reason the society dates the fall of babylon to 607 was because the jews were in captivity for 70 years which working back from 537 you come to 607.. i tried to explain to her that the bible does not specifically say the jews would be in captivity for 70 years but that in daniel it talks of the devestaions of jerusalem ,which could mean it rulership by babylon which started before they were taken captive.. beside that isn't it true that people were left over in jerusalem and only the elite taken?.

anyway at the end of 2 chronicals particually verse 21 it talks of the land laying desolate 70 years this would sujest that the 70 years maybe did refer to the desrution of jerusalem.. can anyone point me in the right direction on this?.

by the way this has no bearing on what i think just my wife as i don't believe the bible to be the word of god anyway, and there are far bigger problems with the witnesses time prophecies , i just need to show from the bible it is wrong as that is the only source of authority for some people.

ElijahTheThird

,,, yeah yeah, I know i always get that date wrong for some reason,, it is 1948,,, but it still sticks!

Norval