Posts by changtech

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What was I thinking?

by changtech in

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i don't know if anyone remembers me from a few months ago.

i talked about being in a very serious relationship with a jw.

we did breakup, but when youre honestly in love with someone, and they claim the same, it's sometimes hard not to get back together.. so that is what we did.

I don't know if anyone remembers me from a few months ago. I talked about being in a very serious relationship with a JW. We did breakup, but when youre honestly in love with someone, and they claim the same, it's sometimes hard not to get back together.

So that is what we did. He started pestering me about studying again, and I just acted nonchalant about it. He still claimed he could 'only marry in the Lord'..so I better convert. He didn't put it mean like that, but that's how it felt. Then someone told me that he was emotionally abusing me. I always felt inferior, because I had to live up to what he wanted me to be, even though he said he was in love with me. It hurts very badly, and I wish I knew more about the JW's before I got into the relationship. I do know tons now though!

Anyways, we broke up, and I told him it would have been so much simpler if he just compromised. AKA: letting me find God on my own. He flat out said NO. Just for the record, he is not a typical JW, you might even say he is one who lives a double life. So, I am just very confused as to why he is so stern with me about converting..well I know most is brainwashing.

I am just very hurt right now. But I am happy I didn't succomb to his expectations, because I am a free-willed person, and have the right to be with someone who loves me for me.

I guess the moral of the story is, either be very careful when dating a JW, or just don't do it!

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The 613 Laws of JW's

by avidbiblereader in

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the witnesses always say they are free in christ, i beg to differ, i don't know how many stupid unscriptural laws they have but lets start a thread on how many dumb witness laws you know and have heard of that make no sense or completely unbelievable, it is like they have a second talmud.

cant have walt disney movies or stuffed animals as this is magical.

cant have beards.

changtech

why cant they buy girl scout cookies? this is so strange!

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1914 and 144,000 questions?

by changtech in

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i was wondering if anyone knew some good websites that deal with these issues?

i am going to be talking with a very knowledgeable witness, who is allowing me to show my points about why i disagree with these topics.. so i need some well researched material to talk about!.

thank you so much :).

changtech

I was wondering if anyone knew some good websites that deal with these issues? I am going to be talking with a very knowledgeable witness, who is allowing me to show my points about why I disagree with these topics.

So I need some well researched material to talk about!

Thank you so much :)

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Can someone with the heavenly hope lose their position?

by unbaptized in

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question, can someone with the heavenly hope lose their position?

changtech

I'm still just having a problem believing there is a separate anointed class, and then the great crowd. I think the 144,000 is a symbolic number. Why would it be literal if the rest of the book of Revelation is symbolic?

I'm looking for answers to this, not trying to sound like a jerk, hehe!

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A "stumbling" question for a JW

by changtech in

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i posted my first topic a few months ago, asking people for advice because my boyfriend is a jw, and will not understand why i will not convert.. we are currently not together, but friends.

he still insists on me staring another bible study.

i have asked him questions about 1914, and the 144,000, but he keeps avoiding them.. anyways, he continues to say only his faith has "the truth".. so finally, i asked him, "if you have the truth, why does the organization continue to update their beliefs (for example, the new revelation book coming out has something like over 50 'updated' things in it), yet claim each time, their new beliefs are definite, and the truth/light?".

changtech

Stealth453:

I know about the new Revelation Book, because my friend (ex boyfriend) keeps talking about it. He is so excited about the "new light" of that book, and he knows that I have questions about the book of Revelation, due to the 144,000.

I have yet to get my hands on the book, however it won't be any use to me, except for providing me with further proof that this organization does not have "The Truth".

I'm not sure if it was you who also asked how I seem to know a lot...it's just research, and I still am in contact with my ex (we were together for a very long time, so I have had time to research), and some of his friends! Don't worry..I will never be one of them.

-Stephanie

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A "stumbling" question for a JW

by changtech in

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i posted my first topic a few months ago, asking people for advice because my boyfriend is a jw, and will not understand why i will not convert.. we are currently not together, but friends.

he still insists on me staring another bible study.

i have asked him questions about 1914, and the 144,000, but he keeps avoiding them.. anyways, he continues to say only his faith has "the truth".. so finally, i asked him, "if you have the truth, why does the organization continue to update their beliefs (for example, the new revelation book coming out has something like over 50 'updated' things in it), yet claim each time, their new beliefs are definite, and the truth/light?".

changtech

Sorry, yes I accidentally posted this twice. I'm on a very bad internet connection right now, so things arent all showing up right!

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A "stumbling" question for a JW

by changtech in

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i posted my first topic a few months ago, asking people for advice because my boyfriend is a jw, and will not understand why i will not convert.. we are currently not together, but friends.

he still insists on me staring another bible study.

i have asked him questions about 1914, and the 144,000, but he keeps avoiding them.. anyways, he continues to say only his faith has "the truth".. so finally, i asked him, "if you have the truth, why does the organization continue to update their beliefs (for example, the new revelation book coming out has something like over 50 'updated' things in it), yet claim each time, their new beliefs are definite, and the truth/light?".

changtech

Thank you for all of the replies! I know people on here have different views on the Witnesses, and that is perfectly fine, I like getting different opinions, because everyone on here has the ability to think, unlike another group of people we know a lot about!

Anyways, just to clarify, there is no way I could ever live a life with a JW as my partner. I just care very much about my ex-boyfriend because he has been through so much in his life, and is the most mature man I have ever known. He is obviously lacking in the being-able-to-speak-for-himself department, but other than that, it's just so sad to see such a good person waste their life on false teachings.

Perhaps it is a waste of time talking to him, but I love him unconditionally as a person, and although he only loves me conditionally (which seems to be one of the rules in the organization), I want to be able to help him. I have realized, however, perhaps the best way to go about it, is acting happy in my own faith in God, and hoping he will become interested. Because, yes, JW's do get hostile when you challenge them.

I also find it funny, because JW's get sooo upset with "apostate" teachings, but don't they ever wonder why so many people are against them? Oh yeah..I forgot, it's Satan's doing...*sigh*.

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A "Stumbling" Question

by changtech in

i posted a few months ago, explaining how my long-time boyfriend, who is a jw, was not willing to compromise with my beliefs and lifestyle.. anyways, we have since broken up, but are still good friends.

he continues to insist that i start another bible study, but i tell him, i won't because he hasn't answered many of my questions, which include 1914, the 144,000, etc.

i also said i want these questions answered from outside sources besides the wt.. i've tried to come up with ways to get him to understand his religion isn't the truth, but i don't think it is possible, as i'm sure many of you understand.. anyways, i asked him this question the other day:.

changtech

I posted a few months ago, explaining how my long-time boyfriend, who is a JW, was not willing to compromise with my beliefs and lifestyle.

Anyways, we have since broken up, but are still good friends. He continues to insist that I start another bible study, but I tell him, I won't because he hasn't answered many of my questions, which include 1914, the 144,000, etc. (which I definitely don't believe). I also said I want these questions answered from outside sources besides the WT.

I've tried to come up with ways to get him to understand his religion isn't the truth, but I don't think it is possible, as I'm sure many of you understand.

Anyways, I asked him this question the other day:

"If your faith is the truth, why do you constantly update your faith (ie: with things such as the new Revelation book), meaning things that you claim are the definite truth now, may be completely different in 5 years? How could I ever believe anything in your faith was true, if it's constantly changing?"

He had a hard time answering this, and maybe I shed some "new light" on to him. I hope I typed the question in a way that made sense!

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A "stumbling" question for a JW

by changtech in

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i posted my first topic a few months ago, asking people for advice because my boyfriend is a jw, and will not understand why i will not convert.. we are currently not together, but friends.

he still insists on me staring another bible study.

i have asked him questions about 1914, and the 144,000, but he keeps avoiding them.. anyways, he continues to say only his faith has "the truth".. so finally, i asked him, "if you have the truth, why does the organization continue to update their beliefs (for example, the new revelation book coming out has something like over 50 'updated' things in it), yet claim each time, their new beliefs are definite, and the truth/light?".

changtech

I posted my first topic a few months ago, asking people for advice because my boyfriend is a JW, and will not understand why I will not convert.

We are currently not together, but friends. He still insists on me staring another bible study. I have asked him questions about 1914, and the 144,000, but he keeps avoiding them.

Anyways, he continues to say only his faith has "The Truth".

So finally, I asked him, "If you have the truth, why does the organization continue to update their beliefs (for example, the new Revelation book coming out has something like over 50 'updated' things in it), yet claim each time, their new beliefs are definite, and the truth/light?"

I continued to say, "So what I believe of the society now may be different in five years. The new "truth" may be completely different than the previous, how can I put my faith into that?"

I hope I'm explaining this good enough, but he had a hard time answering this.

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What Does YOUR Town Do?

by Sunspot in

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my hubby, our grandson, our son, and me.... took a trip down to syracuse to see the "lights on the lake" display.

it is two miles of road through a park along onondaga lake, and it is crammed with all kinds of lighted exhibits with every imaginable christmas creature and every possible theme (and then some) included!

there were even menorahs and displays for hannukkah!

changtech

Oh that sounds really nice! I live about an hour from syracuse, maybe I'll check that out!

If you're interested in more stuff, Skaneatles (spelling?) has really good Christmas events all month!