this is a suggestion really, i don't know if it's in the right sub-forum.
i have read the chapters available online via wikipedia but the risk involved in ordering the book to read the rest is just too great.
does anyone who knows ray franz feel that they could approach him about getting the book made available to purchase online as an e-book?
Thanks Mickey Mouse, I brought up the subject more than once and it is good that others do, too.
btw I managed to download both books by Ray Franz from emule.... not that I liked doing it, but it was the safest way for me. If they become available as e-books I will purchase them to support him.
Having books shipped to the work address is ok, but then where do you keep them?
as i'm sure many of us ex dubs do i have had tremendous fear, anxiety, curiosity and overall need for answers about spirits.
we all learned the same shite.
any spirits are demons.
I don't believe in spirits.
It's all in the mind.
same.
I recommend to read the book "why we believe what we believe".
no, i have not seen this insert and i am predicting it totally blind.. however, every year, they have it.
the february kingdumb misery always has an insert.
in this, they will tell people that they can and should auxiliary pioneer during one of the months of march, april, and/or may (and preferably all three).
for us it was in January
the difference compared to last year is that there was no overall goal of x no. of pioneers. was it because last year the goal was not reached in most countries?
i thought the main thing with the blood issue was that it was to be viewed from god's point of view.
not that it would be up to individual choice and conscience.
my point that i am trying to get to is this, how can a jdub accept blood fractions if they want to view blood in the same light as god would.. am i making this clear?
every JW should read the Jensen letters. if those do not open their eyes on the subject, nothing will.
Available here: http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/blood_-_jensen_letters.html
i heard that a notice was sent to all boe this month removing "keep on the watch" as the featured january campaign.. can i get confirmation from anyone?.
Could it be different from country to country? offer for Jan was always any 192 page book.
deliverance from the traps of the birdcatcher.
"[jehovah] himself will deliver you from the trap of the birdcatcher.
the trap of personal differences.
Like a lion, Satan at times makes open, frontal attacks
do lions actually make frontal attacks?
btw, the whole article made me vomit.
historians agree that jerusalem was invaded by babylon in 586/587bce.
the wts discredits most historical records and says that jerusalem was invaded in 607bce.
the wts start with 587 and add the 70 years that jerusalem lay desolate to obtain the 607 date.. if jerusalem was invaded in 587 then it lay desolate for only 50 years (587-537=50).
I guess scholar is being obedient to KM9/07 QB
historians agree that jerusalem was invaded by babylon in 586/587bce.
the wts discredits most historical records and says that jerusalem was invaded in 607bce.
the wts start with 587 and add the 70 years that jerusalem lay desolate to obtain the 607 date.. if jerusalem was invaded in 587 then it lay desolate for only 50 years (587-537=50).
Dear Scholar,
sorry but it took a long time to reply as I am working on several projects. I hope you are still following the board and will read this post despite KM9/07 ;-)
I tried to obtain Furuli’s books through eisenbrauns but both volumes are out of stock (I guess volume 2 is not published yet).
Anyway, through a friend I received copies of the pages you had mentioned in this thread. As a matter of fact they do not correspond to what I had asked you. I had wished to receive chronology tables from different scholars disagreeing among themselves on the Neo-Babylonian timelines.
Furuli in that specific chapter borrows from Sack that is listing all the historical sources that mention Amel-Marduk.
It is not a list of scholars with different chronologies and I seriously doubt you would find such a list. I haven’t come across it so far and believe me, I am consulting all possible sources. There are of course discussions and debates on the details but not on the main timeline.
Furuli fails to mention (maybe he does it in other parts of the book) that Sack upholds the generally accepted chronology. He also fails to mention that there are explanation for the discrepancies between the historical sources, which are given by Sack (as there are discrepancies between ancient Bible manuscripts, for example).
In the typical WT style (permit me to say that it is not a scholarly approach), Furuli focuses on the discrepancies to try to undermine the whole chronology forgetting that the general picture is quite clear. It is very interesting the efforts he puts in questioning Berossus, while he does not put any effort at all in questioning the later sources and why they differ from Berossus. Would you for example accept whatever is in the Septuagint without checking what does the Masoretic text say and try to understand why there are discrepancies?
With Furulis’ approach you can virtually support any theory, it is sufficient to focus just on what interests you and discard all the rest.
In all honesty Scholar, the more I dig into it there more I see that the WT chronology does not have legs to even stand.
hey all, we are heading off to the snow for the weekend, i havnt been in three years and are eagerly looking forward to it all, esp my kids having heaps of fun.. anyway i have pretty much decided not to ski as i have just found out im pregnant, im a pretty confident skiier i guess its the other people you have to worry about.
when i tried to look at information whether or not it was a good idea it seemed 50\50.. just wondering what would you do or if you have skiied whilst pregnant?.
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my wife skied while pregnant, it was in the first months and it is still OK (but not recommended). It is your choice, but if you decide to do it, be extra careful.
When you are past the 4th month I would definitely say no.
i have just spent the last few days in tasmania, where i was born and raised until the age of 20. my grandmother is a jw in her 80's but let me stay at her house because "no one is going to tell her she can not speak to her own family".
i visited relatives and friends, and found that almost everyone that i grew up with are no longer jws.
it was quite eye-opening; some have become christians, some have new age beliefs, some are athiests.
I don't think I will sell them for now, they have sentimental value, plus If my parents ever question my sources I can always show them the original quotes.
these are good enough reasons. let me add that unless you need the cash, they are worth being kept. they can only go up in value (imo)
