so ever since they discontinues the food service at the assemblies and dcs, jws have been "lovingly encouraged" to pack a light lunch to eat.
the secretary at the hall that i am held hostage in said during the service meeting that even a sub would be too heavy to eat, and that a light salad was the best option.
what do you fine people think is the real reason why, in the absence of food service, jws are told to not leave the building at lunch?
Heh, this gives me an idea.
I'd show up for the first day and bring back McDonalds for lunch for the whole family. Have the greasy burger smell fill the entire section. Make them all drool.
I'm sure the attendants would try to say something, but that is laughed off when you know they have no power over you.
"No brother, please explain again from the bible why I can't eat my lunch"
jw leaks has published the respondent's brief prepared by rick simons in the case: candace conti v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york & fremont congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
(90 pages).
http://jwleaks.org/candace-conti/.
Ah, the Watchtower legalism bites them in the ass.
They claimed clergy confessional rights, but violated the confidentiality by disclosing the confessional to the Legal and Service departments of the Watchtower, a seperate corporation. They then told other local elders that were not part of the "confession" and when Kendrick moved, they shared the "confession" with the new congregation.
The Watchtower wants all these layers for protection, but to remain intimately involved in the day to day workings. Based on the outcome of this appeal, they might no longer get their cake and eat it too!
Makes you wonder, if they had to give up control of the congregation records, or give up legal distinction, which would they choose?
"without god in your life, you cannot have a moral compass",,,, please explain to me why you think that should be so?
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because it is on sale doesn,t mean it,s a saving, 5lbs of.
prunes is not a good deal.
wouldn,t it be more economocal.
It can be good, but like everything, it requires paying attention.
We collect coupons but they go into a folder. We only save the coupons for things we actually use.
When it goes on sale we pull the coupon out and use it.
If you know the right place to look you can even get coupons that reduce the price of items to free. It can be economical but you have to make sure of three criteria:
1) Do you need it?
2) With the coupon, will it be cheaper than other brands?
3) How much time are you spending managing it?
Follow that criteria and you'll save a bit of money. It's not a secret to becoming wealthy, but a good habit to get into.
- i am now one individual expressing my own thoughts and point of view.
i think by doing this i oppose the w.t and have woken up many sleeping witnesses and even inspired them to think for themselfs and listen to that voice of reason inside them.. but now that voice of reason is awoken there is no longer any sleep no more dreaming and slowly have discoverd a new life of lies and illusion .holly shit the whole world , the goverments and the newspapers and advertising is feeding me the same s...t only different lies and a differnt illusion than the watchtowers.
uggggggggg.
Pros and cons of leaving the Watchtower
Pro: It opens your eyes
Con: It opens your eyes
don't get me wrong, this forum currently has plenty of interesting discussions and posters, but, for those of you who weren't on the old jwd board in the early-to-mid-00s, man...i'm sorry but you really missed out on the glory years of this forum.
it was really a special, unique place then.
again, not dissing the current, but, that huge exciting wave of ex-jw internet activity that occurred in the early part of this century seems to have leveled off.
When I signed up there were many more "factions". Each had their own core members and there wasn't much fraternizing.
Let's see, there was Thom's place, that was smaller and seemed like a close knit group
Englishman's forum where you would find some really deep debates
JWO, where all the ex-JW trolls thrived
and JWD which was the largest and often the target of "board wars"
Some interesting times, more drama than midday soaps!
Edit: I think the biggest difference is that other than BBXB, most of the ex-jw communities get along with each other now.
judging by the titles/themes of the talks , dramas ,new releases ,tracts,brochures , etc,.i dont think their was anything that would enthuse any witness to renewed activity.on the contrary i think it would demoralize you .their was nothing their to inspire a new convert let alone one who has been in for decades to keep on in service to this organization.
for arguments sake ,i was baptised in 1961 if i was still in , at this convention ,i would be asking ,when is the great tribulatin to begin?
who is the king of the north ?
They are a multi billion dollar company.
That sort of money will buy them time.
There must be a hard number for minimum membership to sustain a bare bones opperation. I look at the WWCG as an example. They publically admitted fault and pushed reform to be more in line with Christian religions.
I believe they lost over 50% of their numbers but still survive to today.
They will try to adapt to keep their control in an era of free information but if that fails they can always play the deperation card of reform and survive.
o.k.
fair enough they do not have the same freedom to go from door to door in muslim lands , and of course their are so few of them their to make any impact with their incidental witnessing .. however with modern day technology ,the internet , blogs ,tweets ,social media , etc,etc.
they could saturate /flood these countrys with their brand of " truth" if they were serious about it .. the fact that they dont, : means they are not serious about spreading the good news of the kingdom in all the earth , making jehovahs name known in all the earth , or witnessing to everybody on earth so they can have opportunity to gain salvation .. or are they afraid of what the muslims will do to them in retalliation .. smiddy.
They are banned in most muslim countries.
They want to appease the governments there like Rutherford tried to cozy up to Hitler in the 30's.
Can't be preaching fire and brimstone about muslims when they are attempting to get a ban lifted.
I also think that they are scared at being a target for extremist action.
here's the subject:.
the "q&c" questions and comments section of the journal 'biblical archaeology review' (one of my favorite magazines), jan/feb 2013 , p. 68, someone from illinois wrote the following question:.
quote: "we've often heard that 'jehovah' is an amalgamation of the unpronounced tetragrammaton (yhwh) and, when spoken, is pronounced "lord" (adonai).
Witnesses try to use logic for inserting 'Jehovah' into the NT. Stating that it would have been in scriptures that he quoted from and wouldn't remove the name of his father.
I counter with my own logic. The pronunciation of the name had be so far removed from normal culture that I don't think anyone would expect to hear it. Couple that with the fact that uttering the divine name was a stoning offence in Jesus' time.
The Pharisees were desperate for an excuse to kill Jesus, logic would dictate that if he was running around everywhere saying "Jehovah" he would have met with a quick demise.
my wife passed away 2 years ago we had been married over 30 years, i have since remarried and my new wife is younger than 3 of my children from my first marriage.
i just wondering if there are any more like me out there.
i stay in excellent shape for my age, work out almost daily eat good and have absolutely no medical problems or at least none i can do anything about, bad knees, but my vitals are excellent, and i am known as the teenage because of them when i have my yearly medical checkup.. so was wondering if there are others out there like me, and what some may think about it, just for the record i am extremely happy once again, and we have a 18 month boy who delights me, have a whole new outlook on fatherhood and child raising.
While there is a certain amount of people who marry younger than them for sex appeal, I see no problem with people who genuinely enjoy each other.
If you connect with someone else and end up saying "if only you were closer to my age", you are selling yourself short in favor of the opinion of people who aren't going to bring you any happiness with their criticism.
