Posts by Paralipomenon

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Marrying a non-witness

by why??? in

this is my first post and im nervous but i've read many so far.

my situation is this im going to be 21 in june and i'm in love with my boyfriend but he not a witness and i am( i have been my entire life) my parent found out and forbid me to see him and even told me to leave, i did leave for a day, but they called me back.

but they still hate that i have any contact with him...and we still want to get married.

Paralipomenon

Seriously, you will get no better advice than what jgnat wrote.

If he loves you he'll wait.

As to the "other things" mentioned. Have you considered that the WTS preaches a rather narrow view of what married couples can do in the bedroom?

Food for thought.

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The Spanking Hall?

by WTWizard in

children in the jehovah's witness religion really have it hard.

to compare, look at other churches.

most of them have sunday school, and this is geared to children that are not able to really comprehend the deeper things.

Paralipomenon

I agree with Adolfius. I grew up knowing nothing else. If anything, I feel it helped fuel a very strong imagination, what else is a kid to do if he's bored and can't play.

I used to get spankings too, but mostly they were reserved for when we got home so we could get a thumpin' in private.

When we got home, we'd run upstairs and put on extra underwear and hope to god that we didn't warrant a bare bottom spanking. Rarely worked, but was worth trying.

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Looking for research assistance: Child Abuse in Christendom

by Paralipomenon in

i tossed most of my wts stuff and cd a long time ago so i lack the ability to check this.

does anyone have a list of the articles in which the wts discussed the issue of child abuse in other religions?

i seem to recall it being the main feature of an awake in the late 80's.

Paralipomenon

I tossed most of my WTS stuff and CD a long time ago so I lack the ability to check this.

Does anyone have a list of the articles in which the WTS discussed the issue of child abuse in other religions? I seem to recall it being the main feature of an Awake in the late 80's.

I'm interested in rereading what they said about other religions, now it applies to themselves.

Thanks

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OK, so let's test the science advocates out here.............

by NotaNess in

i'll start it off, then someone else give them a different challenge if you can think of any.. please give definitive examples that by evolution, a species has changed into something else.

give two separate findings by scientists, and it can't include any comments like "so we believe", "so we conclude that", or "the evidence shows that there could have been".....the wts has those copyrighted.. try and give un-doctored photographic proof, where possible, etc.

by the way the hominid skulls and the like will not be accepted, transition has never been proven, i don't think, just that they are different, and scientists "believe", they are pre-homo-sapiens.. i'm not saying you won't have examples, we just want you to walk the talk.

Paralipomenon

To put this another way:

If Jesus existed, where is his skeleton?

Think of simple math here, how many fossils have been discovered in the world? Given the estimated time frame of evolution, what percentage of the world's animals that ever existed became fossils?

Demanding fossil proof of an evolutionary change is akin to me asking for Jesus' skeleton.

However science may be able to offer more proof with DNA analysis of fossils. Recently they genetically linked a Tyrannosaurus Rex with today's chicken. Nobody set out to prove that those two were related, they were just shocked to discover it true.

Bone structures don't show links, but DNA does. The more research they do into this, I think they will be able to start linking ancient creatures to not only each other, but their modern day equivalent.

The key difference here is that science is continuously working towards an answer. Creationism seems stagnated. It's fine to demand science to prove their theories, but Creationism is deemed as fact without any evidence other than "well science hasn't completely proven us wrong yet".

Look at history, time and time again scientific advancements have disproven blind faith.

We look back at people that were scorned for thinking the earth moved around the sun. People that taught that the earth was a sphere rather than flat. That the eclipse was a sign that God was angry.

I don't know that science will prove evolution as the ultimate answer, but I do know that it will be science that provides a definitive answer before faith.

Mainly because faith doesn't have that great a track record.

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You Were My First Love And Youll Be My Last Love ...

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

you were my first love and youll be my last love ...living in florida has given me the opportunity to see couples who have been.

together for decades sometimes dating back to the second world war.. .

it has always amazed me how some couples can stay together for 20, 30, 40 .

Paralipomenon

My take on it? Friendship.

I'm a strong believer that you should be friends before lovers, because once the infatuation wears off, you'll still have a good solid foundation of friendship to continue building your relationship on.

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LOST spoiler questions??

by Bob Loblaw in

why did charlie have to die?

why couldn't he have swam out of that window?

he was such a good character.

Paralipomenon

Why did the shutdown code call Penelope?

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God could NEVER convince me he exists. Weird...

by AlmostAtheist in

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it just dawned on me, and i'm really a little put out over it.

i was reading alanf's comments about vinny and his willingness to sacrifice children if god told him to.

alan suggested any fundamentalist christian should agree he would, and vinny did in fact agree.

Paralipomenon

Why give mankind free will, then state that they can only use their free will to serve him?

I'll pass, thank you.

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Lost Season Finale Tonight!!

by XJW4EVR in

who's ready for some answers!

maybe?.

.

Paralipomenon

Oh hell yah.

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What accounts for our ever-changing view of ourselves?

by AlmostAtheist in

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but i find that at times i feel like i've got a lot to offer -- at work, with my kids, here on jwd.

even on stage.

and other times, i feel like "what have i got to say that everybody else doesn't already think?

Paralipomenon

In the grand scheme of things, I don't think I have any particularally unique viewpoints, or special wisdom. What I do hope for though is for someone to challenge something I write (some things, not all)

That would enable me to further evaluate my own viewpoint. I guess for me it's more of a refining process.

I have typed up a few paragraphs, then when reading it over before posting think to myself. "Hmmm, I don't think I want everybody knowing this about myself" or "Am I open to discussing this, or am I just airing my view".

Then I decide whether to hit post or not.

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Agnostics demand ambiguity!

by Paralipomenon in

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why let the theists and atheists have all the fun?

agnostics, let your voice be heard!

uncertainty for the masses!

Paralipomenon

nvrgnbk:

What would qualify an entity as "God" or "a god"?

What if we found a being that created humans but he himself had a creator, would he be God?
What if we evolved, but were adopted by a being that helped mold our development, would he be God?
Does God need to be interested in us to assume that title?

I'm not attempting to convert you to agnosticism, I just find it curious that as an atheist, which defines itself as "a belief that there is no God" doesn't see it as strange they they'd leave the possibility that there might be SOME God.

In my mind the two are mutually exclusive. You cannot deny the existence of a God, while being open to the existence of a God.

Am I misunderstanding your post?

Are you saying you are an Atheist to the Hebrew God, but Agnostic to the concept of a God?