While I doubt there would be any way to set a group up that actually kept mal-intentioned witnesses out, it would be funny for Simon to add the "No active WT employee, agent, etc. clause because it would cost the WTS thousands on legal fees to determine what sort of liability it would cause and what measures would they need to put in place to cover their legal butts to keep snooping.
Paralipomenon
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Private Discussion
by besty insimon.
as most people seem to have worked out the private discussion and support part of the forum is not private beyond requiring a username.. today nugget and cantleave are having printouts of their posts in this section being used in evidence at their jc.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/204436/1/nugget-and-cantleave-are-no-longer-jehovahs-witnesses.
my suggestion is, if its possible, to create an invite-only section of the board for truly private support.. .
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Millions Now Living Will Never Die----Where Does That Come From?
by cameo-d inisn't that wt's calling card?
isn't that how it all started?
where does this phrase "millions now living will never die" come from?
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Paralipomenon
Millions Now Living Will Never Die----Where Does That Come From?
Saddly, a bunch of people that are dead now.
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My mom throws a not so subtle threat my way
by JWinprotest inmy fade is going well, but my mom knows full well what my thoughts are on the wts.
it seems that she feels comfortable just ignoring the situation in order to keep seeing her grandchildren.. the other day however we were talking about someone we know who is making it very difficult for her parents to see their grandchild.. then out of the blue, my mom turns in my direction and says, that if any of her kids try to deny her from seeing her grandchildren, she would take them to court and get a court order to force them to let her see them.. i know what the message was, and it was loud and clear.
she is letting me know that if i get disfellowshipped there's no way i can keep the kids away from her.
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Paralipomenon
I'm no lawyer but I've never heard of a court ordered visitation for anyone other than parents.
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JC question: Do you accept the FDS as God's organization?
by MrMonroe inmy wife and i had stopped going to meetings in april; in december of that year we travelled interstate and stayed with the witness couple who had "brought me into the truth".
we had already told them we'd quit meetings and there was a certain tension in the air for the first couple of days until sunday morning, when, over a breakfast that eventually lasted several hours, they began to interrogate us about why we had left.
had we been stumbled?
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Paralipomenon
I'm pretty sure there are multiple places where the society has stated that the FDS does not claim divine inspiration. With that as a reference, could the question be turned back to them "Without inspiration, how would Jehovah use imperfect humans to correctly deliver his message?"
I never got asked that question. Pity, I would have loved to hear an answer to that.
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Saw my JW father the other day
by Paralipomenon ini'm still a bit torn on the issue of associating with my parents.
they have made absolutely no effort to keep in touch and usually any contact results in a generic witness email reply.. i have been at the point that i really don't need or care for their influence in my life for a while but i keep flipping back and forth between cutting off all contact and being the bigger person and at least give them updates.. so, in light of their recent aniversary, i went to the store and tried to pick them out a card.
i never really realized how difficult that is if you're looking for a card to actually mean what you say.. unfortunately i didn't find a card that said "sorry you two are trapped in a loveless marriage and i could really care less about your opinions" so i settled for the least bit sappy i could find.. i put the kid's school pictures in and while out running errands dropped it off.
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Paralipomenon
His comments don't make much sense given that he invited you in.
What I gather from my sister (faded fast and furious) is that they are willing to make an exception and tollerate us if we reach out to them, but can't reach out to us in return.
Essentially, if I call to invite them for supper or ask to come up, they'd say no, but if I show up or just call to chat, they'd be polite and they would be able to "tollerate" it. Truth be told, I think they wish I'd be more forward so they could "tollerate" more contact with the grandkids. It's a pity that they raised me with a spine or I'd settle for their conditional love.
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Watchtower 1954 claims Jesus had nice short hair and NO BEARD....remember the pictures?
by Witness 007 inflicking thru some old watchtowers i was suprised to see pictures of jesus clean shaven with short hair!!
wachtower 1954 p.511 "why do watchtower books now show jesus with short hair and no beard?
...because he was shown that way in representations of him that are older then traditional effeminate looking pictures..." {having a beard is not so effeminate may refer to long hair}.
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Paralipomenon
I remember helping out an older brother in the hall clean out his basement and he had an old witness calender on the wall showing Jesus with short blond hair and no beard. I actually went over to check out what religion it was and was stunned to see it was put out by the WTBTS.
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Saw my JW father the other day
by Paralipomenon ini'm still a bit torn on the issue of associating with my parents.
they have made absolutely no effort to keep in touch and usually any contact results in a generic witness email reply.. i have been at the point that i really don't need or care for their influence in my life for a while but i keep flipping back and forth between cutting off all contact and being the bigger person and at least give them updates.. so, in light of their recent aniversary, i went to the store and tried to pick them out a card.
i never really realized how difficult that is if you're looking for a card to actually mean what you say.. unfortunately i didn't find a card that said "sorry you two are trapped in a loveless marriage and i could really care less about your opinions" so i settled for the least bit sappy i could find.. i put the kid's school pictures in and while out running errands dropped it off.
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It is really sad that they are missing out on their grand-childrens lives. Same thing happened on my side. No way that will ever be reclaimed.
I think that's part of the reason I keep trying. My children are missing out on grandparents and if they ask me later on, I want to say that at least I tried.
The previous week my wife's uncle passed away and her parents didn't even bother calling to let her know. Warm Christian love, huh?
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Saw my JW father the other day
by Paralipomenon ini'm still a bit torn on the issue of associating with my parents.
they have made absolutely no effort to keep in touch and usually any contact results in a generic witness email reply.. i have been at the point that i really don't need or care for their influence in my life for a while but i keep flipping back and forth between cutting off all contact and being the bigger person and at least give them updates.. so, in light of their recent aniversary, i went to the store and tried to pick them out a card.
i never really realized how difficult that is if you're looking for a card to actually mean what you say.. unfortunately i didn't find a card that said "sorry you two are trapped in a loveless marriage and i could really care less about your opinions" so i settled for the least bit sappy i could find.. i put the kid's school pictures in and while out running errands dropped it off.
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Paralipomenon
I'm still a bit torn on the issue of associating with my parents. They have made absolutely no effort to keep in touch and usually any contact results in a generic witness email reply.
I have been at the point that I really don't need or care for their influence in my life for a while but I keep flipping back and forth between cutting off all contact and being the bigger person and at least give them updates.
So, in light of their recent aniversary, I went to the store and tried to pick them out a card. I never really realized how difficult that is if you're looking for a card to actually mean what you say.
Unfortunately I didn't find a card that said "Sorry you two are trapped in a loveless marriage and I could really care less about your opinions" so I settled for the least bit sappy I could find.
I put the kid's school pictures in and while out running errands dropped it off. My dad answered the door and I said happy anniversary and gave him the card. He invited me to come in and I declined by saying I had a kid in the car. My father said that we could both come in which I declined. I pointed out that it has been four years and a sudden meeting would be confusing for the kid.
My father retorted that it's only been four years because of MY choice. I was a bit dumbfounded. I replied that we have called and invited them for dinner many times with no reply and he just repeated that it was my choice.
A bit annoyed I just pointed to the card, told him that there were pictures of the kids inside and that they are welcome to call us if they ever want to get together. I stressed that calling would he HIS choice. Wished them a happy anniversary and left.
What a pain. Sometimes being the 'bigger person' really sucks.
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Letter from an anointed reader who DA'd after 33 years
by Dogpatch indear randy, early this year i requested disassociation from the org and have been meaning to publish some sort of statement.
i was a member for over 33 years and partook of the emblems.
being an older widow it took some deliberation and guts to make the move but am currently very happy with the change.
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Paralipomenon
With a brief glimpse into her past with the witnesses, it would be very easy to become bitter and jaded over years lost to deception. I am happy to see that her letter shows absolutely no bitterness, rather it seems lightly laced with sadness for those that remain in the organization blinded by false hope.
If that's your mother VanillaMocha73, pass along my admiration for her decision as well as her articulate expression of awakening.
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Okay, men...need your opinion here, please...
by diana netherton inas i troll through the minefield of cadishness in the dreary dating world i am endeavouring to somewhat understand.
the words that spill out of a man's mouth -- the real meaning versus the words.. .
words: i like you and i like your friendship.
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Paralipomenon
Meh. Just ask him when he realized he was gay.