wunce_was --------
Thanks for sharing...this whole thing was great for some serious rip-roaring laughs--!!!
i just happen to catch part of a steve martin movie called, "the jerk".
the scene is cat juggling.
so i google cat juggling out of curiosity and i get this: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/cat_juggling.
wunce_was --------
Thanks for sharing...this whole thing was great for some serious rip-roaring laughs--!!!
i'm a "loner", so no one is following me, and i'm not following anyone.. maybe i tend slightly towards being a follower, but it better be worth my time, or i'll be back to a loner once more.
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Depends on context. Totally.
if you're on the do not call list and you live in the us, or if you want to join it so you can be left alone, i have good news: at the last meeting, the congregation was informed that from now on, "dncs are supposed to be checked on by telephone, not at the door by publishers.
do not call to update the records.
a group of brothers will be assigned to check on these by telephone.".
I think it would be excellent if the general public could be advised of this possibility en masse.
I was thinking we should keep bumping this topic to the topic so it stays fresh, so that people who look at JWD, anyway, will be actively informed (not just those looking this weekend).
if you're on the do not call list and you live in the us, or if you want to join it so you can be left alone, i have good news: at the last meeting, the congregation was informed that from now on, "dncs are supposed to be checked on by telephone, not at the door by publishers.
do not call to update the records.
a group of brothers will be assigned to check on these by telephone.".
I WONDER IF IT IS LEGAL REASONS OR SOMETHING ?
I'm sure it IS for legal reasons...nothing else seems to prompt beneficial changes from these guys.....
i don't know about anyone else but this could be the source of major contention between dubs in my halls.
you had those who started their time as soon as you pulled out of the hall parking lot (me), those who counted from the first knock at the door or laundry mat visited, and the die hards who didn't start until they actually spoke to someone(my sister).
my sister and i would go round and round about this, i finally just pretended to start my time when she did just to shut her up.
I wanted to find out the 'actual' guidelines so I could go by those. (Didn't want to misrespresent myself or cheat Jehovah, ya know.) Found out breaks don't count, the first attempt to reach someone does (door knock or phone call--so smart dubs called before leaving the hall, or even before even leaving home to meet at the hall, if it was someone they could call that early).
Also, found out way after the fact that--for all those months and months of handing in time and auxilliarying-- I could and should have been counting the time talking to my [unbaptized] husband and studying with my[unbaptized] kids. That would have made my getting in service time a whole heck of a lot easier!!!
My ex was raised in the 'truth'; I wasn't. Although he professed belief, he would not live by the principles much less the rules--just wanted them to apply to me. Studying with the kids was supposed to be his responsibility and 'time' to count toward his service record (he was a publisher). But he wasn't doing it, so...burden of training the kids according to his family's religion fell to me--hence, my being the one to count time for studying with the kids--when I finally did start counting it! [I still wonder how much time would have tallied had I counted it from the beginning...and how much simpler household life would have been.]
i do not attend the same hall as my boyfriend because he is currently reproved for being involved with me.
i'm not a witness.
he confessed to his elders that he had sex with someone outside of marriage after his second divorce was already final.
If you keep your Bible study up where you go, you'll have the best protection from him.
emilyblue--- Fred means well, but this statement is absolutely, unequivocally UNTRUE!!! I trusted in this fallacy--of protection within the loving bounds of the organization/ congregation/ elder body arrangement--and found that just the opposite held true: The expectation is that a "Christian" woman will take all manner of abuse from her errant husband in the "loving" hopes that he will eventually be moved to 'put on the new personality' and begin to apply the fruitages of the spirit...'that he may be won without a word.' [I'm too lazy to go get the citations for these scriptures...you can look them up in the index if you want.]
THERE IS NO PROTECTION FOR THE SISTERS WITHIN THIS ORGANIZATION.... The abusers are shielded, and the women are handed over like sacrificial lambs to these wolves in sheep's clothing.
Hope you are doing well.
J-ex-W
i think my head is a little messed up from my recent relationship with a man who is a jw.
i attended a few meetings and bible studies with an older woman who i met at the first meeting.
i am not going to become a jw because i can't give up holidays and birthdays, but i do have a few questions.
In the case of surgery, this termed is used where blood loss is minimized by "sucking in" the blood that would otherwise be lost, and cleaning it and reusing it for your your own recovery. Education comes in many ways.
emilyblue---------If I had relied on this when I had my MAJOR back surgery last fall, I would be dead now. Literally. I'll tell you more about it in a PM, if you wish. I used to spout off a lot of ignorant JW apologist stuff just like this.....
i think my head is a little messed up from my recent relationship with a man who is a jw.
i attended a few meetings and bible studies with an older woman who i met at the first meeting.
i am not going to become a jw because i can't give up holidays and birthdays, but i do have a few questions.
Learning more about it, it just seems like a very strict lifestyle based on very narrow beliefs, but sometimes I catch myself thinking that maybe it isn't such a big deal.
Yep---right where *I* started too. It's fine for a time...like the bottleneck of a traffic jam.... It can be weathered for a time, but the longer it goes on the 'jam up' gets more and more restrictive and frustrating --especially after you've had your fill of learning the nuances and novelties of this setting and are ready to explore other aspects/ of living, life experiences, emotional/ social growth...........
Then the NO PASSING ZONE signs pop e-v-er-y-w-h-e-r-e, from out of NOWHERE.........................
And the bold painted double lines prevent you from going around to get past the line of stalled individuals in front of you, blocking your path, to the point ahead where you can CLEARLY SEE the road is free and beckoning ahead. As long as you don't care about moving forward.............. past the frustratingly SLOW and blocked up line of dead-end individualsin front of you...there is nothing wrong with setting your sights down this path.
Personal growth is a no-no here............growth "WITHIN" the very narrow parameters of the org.'s definition of 'spiritual pursuits' is the only thing encouraged/ rewarded here...anything is else is overtly or covertly cautioned against, and shunted aside as not worthy of our time and attention, in view of 'the times we live in' [last "minutes" and all].
If you want personal growth and varied experiences in your future, take a different path.... Honestly, take a different path!!!
J-ex-W
not a hip-hop fan or country, but would like something that will bring me up and something to wallow in also.
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so i'd love to hear you suggestions of what i should download.
For the uptempo one:
Paul McCartney and Wings: "Got to Get You Into My Life"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXkLwCm6rgk
will be............ 90% bad 10% good?.
75% bad 25% good?.
50% bad 50% good?.
Never make love to a woman that has more mental problems than you have.
For some people, this could be setting the bar very l - o - w .......