RunningMan: Much like all the rest of the Bible prophesies (except the ones that were downright wrong).
What prophecies were "downright wrong"? Examples, please!
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Justahuman24
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Cyrus predicted?
by thebiggestlie into those who don't take the bible as gospel truth, is there an explanation for the prophetic prediction of cyrus as the one that would help bring down babylon?
this is one thing thats been on mind that i havn't really had the time to research and i'd love to here some of your opinions.
even thoughs that accept the bible i wouldnt mind hearing what you say as i am open to any idea.
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Angelic DNA
by Woodsman inin considering the wts beliefs about the angels who came down and had sex with women, producing offspring i began to wonder.
this would mean that angels have the abilility to create a human life without god's help.
both by creating a human body and taking possesion of it and by then using that body to create offspring.. this whole business of materializing is suspicious.
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Justahuman24
It is hard to explain it because the Bible doesn't give lots of details and DNA is sooo complicated. The Bible says that the "sons of God" came down to earth and had intercourse with women. This would mean they materialized bodies. I don't think they were or had two natures. As angels, being very powerful and way smarter than humans, they could just easily materialize themselves, which they did. In fact, angels HAVE to materialize in order to be seen by humans. Those angels that were messengers of God and appeared to Abraham, Jacob and others materialized only for a short time. They even ate. Also, remember that the angel that conteded with Jacob had to be materialized in order for Jacob to see him and grapple with him. But the angel asked Jacob to let him go because it was almost morning. So, it maybe that angels have the ability to materialize for our benefit e.g. so we can see them, but that they're not supposed to stay in that form for long, possible so they don't fall into the temptation that the demons did e.g. wanting to breed with human women.
The nephilim weren't necessary giants. I'm sure some of them were or many of them. But they were also strong. Their differences didn't have to be physical. Also, the nephilim were hybrids because two different "natures" were breeding. And it could be that as a result of that, mutations were created in the offspring. The Bible doesn't say that the demons were the nephilim. The nephilim were the sons of angels and humans so it wasn't them that when the flood happened, went back to heaven. The nephilim died, all of them, when the Flood happened. It was the angels who de-materialized themselves - got rid of their human bodies - in order for them to go back to heaven.
It must've been some mutation that caused the nephilim to be giants or some of them but they were mostly known for their super-strength. Goliath was not a hybrid yet he was taller than "normal". So, it was also probably some mutationn in the DNA. It doesn't point to an evolutionary trait. Also, the Amalekites were big in stature.
justahuman - but super nonetheless
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I really think it doesn't matter and on this I agree with the WTS. Because a lot people criticize the WTS for using Jehovah even though to some scholars it doesn't seem to be the "correct" name or use of consonants but no one objects to using Jesus as opposed to Yeoshuah.
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Serious Scholarly Resource/Reference for Early Martyr Numbers
by truthsearcher inhello: an elder that i was discussing the 144,000 with asked for a reference for the # of true christians martyred during the first couple of centuries.
any suggestions?
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Justahuman24
I should've turned it around and asked him to give you reference as to who many anointed ones lived and died faithful in the first century lol...
Besides, who in hell is going to know who was martyred or how many. Sure there are a few who became well-known and how they died but not all of them and I'm sure lots of people died as martyred than we may know of.
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Is it wrong to be proud of achievements?
by free2beme ini don't want to have this come across as bragging, but i have to explain this to ask this question.
okay, where i work is a call center and i do sales, along with customer service.
for the last five years, out of 2500 representatives online nationally, i have been number one in sales for all months and years.
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Justahuman24
I think . . . that you should get me a job so I can make as much as you do lol... I NEED MONEY!!!! :-P
Great for you! As long as you don't think too much of yourself, don't even give a second thought what other people think!
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What is the deal with Moses? A rant on absurdity in the Bible.
by Morocco inthe other day i was reading about moses and i came to the very popular part of the golden calf.
but now, with a little maturity and freedom from the clutches of witness thought i can see some terrible problems with the bible.
in the beginning of exodus 32 god is talking to moses and sees that the israelites have made a calf out of gold and they are using it as their god.
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Morocco,
again, it wasn't Aaron's idea. THE PEOPLE asked him to build a god for them. Granted, Aaron was at fault. I'm not saying he wasn't free of guilt. Even Moses, his brother, asked him why he allowed this to happen. But it could be that Aaron was afraid that the people would hurt him if he didn't do it bcz AGAIN, THE PEOPLE asked HIM to do it. He probably just gave in to the pressure of the people.
Someone else also mentioned that the people were wrongly punished because they hadn't been given the tablet with the commandments so they didn't know it was wrong to make a false god. But Ex. 20:3 says: You must not have any other gods against my face. True. The people hadn't received the tablets yet but they had been already told the Ten Commandments. They knew not to do that yet they did.
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2 Samuel chapter 24 - Don't mess with God!
by nicolaou ingod tells david, "don't count my people".
david counts the people.. god tells david, "'cos you were naughty you gotta pick your punishment, will it be 'a' 7 years of famine, 'b' 3 months of national humiliation or 'c' 3 days of pestilence?
choose davey boy!".
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Justahuman24
I have already talked about this in another similar thread.
It seems to me that David's sin was not taking the census per se. Exodus 30:11-15 says that whenever Israel were to be summed/numbered/counted, offerings were to be made. David didn't offer sacrifices when he took the census. This coupled with the fact that David could've taken the census just to boast about how many people he was ruler of/over. It showed pride. The other times where census were taken, they were for the purpose of the priesthood, military - they were about to go to war or wanted to know who was old enough to serve in the military - or was instructed by God. This particular census by David doesn't seem to fit any of these.
About the Gibeonites - God wasn't the one who came up with the idea of offering the "seven men" to the Gibeonites. The text says that it was the Gibeonites and they specifically ask for people of Saul's house - descendants of Saul because it was Saul who murdered lots of Gibeonites. The reason why they asked for the lives of Saul's descendants could be that since those who died couldn't procreate anymore or continue their family life, the Gibeonites wanted to do the same to Saul but the text says that David felt sorry for one of Saul's children so he didn't offer him up.
justahuman - but super nonetheless
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What is the deal with Moses? A rant on absurdity in the Bible.
by Morocco inthe other day i was reading about moses and i came to the very popular part of the golden calf.
but now, with a little maturity and freedom from the clutches of witness thought i can see some terrible problems with the bible.
in the beginning of exodus 32 god is talking to moses and sees that the israelites have made a calf out of gold and they are using it as their god.
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Justahuman24
I'm really getting into it, aren't I? lol
Well, the most obvious reason that God didn't choose to have David be persecuted by his enemies was stated by David himself. He asked not to fall on the hands of humans because they wouldn't be as merciful as God is. So, if David were to have been persecuted by his enemies as his punishment, then he could've died. And what do you think would've happened if David had died? God's promise of a Messiah wouldn't have been fulfilled in him.
justahuman - but super nonetheless
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What is the deal with Moses? A rant on absurdity in the Bible.
by Morocco inthe other day i was reading about moses and i came to the very popular part of the golden calf.
but now, with a little maturity and freedom from the clutches of witness thought i can see some terrible problems with the bible.
in the beginning of exodus 32 god is talking to moses and sees that the israelites have made a calf out of gold and they are using it as their god.
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Justahuman24
I just saw something in the Bible that might explain why it was a sin for David to count Israel.
Exodus 30:11-15 says that whenever Israel was to be numbered or summed, they had to give sacrifices and it specifically states what was to be offered and how much. When David took the census, it doesn't say he offered any sacrifices at all.
Plus, it was Satan who instigated David into doing it. And 1 Chronicle 21:3 states that Joab knew it was wrong as soon as David ordered him to take a census of the people of Israel. So maybe David just wanted to pride himself based on the position of king knowing that thousands of people were under his command. Anyway, I still think the biggest "sin" was not the counting itself, but not offering sacrifices when the census was takn as God had told Moses.
justahuman - but super nonetheless
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What is the deal with Moses? A rant on absurdity in the Bible.
by Morocco inthe other day i was reading about moses and i came to the very popular part of the golden calf.
but now, with a little maturity and freedom from the clutches of witness thought i can see some terrible problems with the bible.
in the beginning of exodus 32 god is talking to moses and sees that the israelites have made a calf out of gold and they are using it as their god.
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Justahuman24
Morocco, First, it wasn't Aaron's idea. Verse 1 of chap 1 says that THE PEOPLE asked Aaron to make a god for them. And also, Aaron wasn't the only one who made the false god. He obviously had helped from other people. And he wasn't the only one who was not punished. All the Levites were forgiven. After Moses went down from the Mountain, he asked everyone who was on God's side and the Levites showed they were by moving to Moses' side. This could explain that they weren't wholeheartedly rebellious/idolaters and that's probably why God forgave them. justahuman - but super nonetheless