Not the least bit offended, QuellyCaF. Being angry and frustrated--sad-- to the point of speechlessness is the worst. We have to talk. Sometimes @#$%^& is about all I could/can manage.
humbled
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Please allow me to apologise.
by quellycatface ini have been posting on here for a few weeks now and i know i have been quite colourful in my language.. i hope i have'nt offended anyone, if so, i am sorry.. i'm just so damn angry about everything.
i feel like an idiot.
i'd been falling for the bs for so many years.. will these feelings ever fade?.
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Ever consider joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
by rawe inhas anyone here left jehovah's witnesses to join the churuch of jesus christ of latter-day saints?
what was your motivation for doing so and how has it worked out?.
if you haven't joined the lds or considered it, as an ex-jw, what is your general view of the lds faith?.
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humbled
For first-hand accounts of the early days of plural marriage(and why JSmiths writing reflects more literary ability than many suspect he possessed) read the diary exerpts of his personal secretary, William Clayton.
These writings surfaced in the 1980's (?) and are not the sort of archive the LDS Church wanted to get out in the public eye.
Like the Ray Franz book Crisis of Conscience it is documentarian in its perspective and therefore the more difficult to ignore.
Corrupt power/power corrupts. Spiritual hood-winkery and sexual pick-a dilloes.
The LDS has its own writting department and "researchers" who have revised the past just as the Wasptower has. Not a dimes worth of difference IMO.
Read for yourself:search "Joseph Smith's secretary, William Clayton" and go from there.
Maeve
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What are you doing on Christmas day?
by Jen1 inany one out there doing field service?
i have not gone out on that day in years.
and have no intention of ever doing that again.
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Get our under our roof 4 grown sons who live near and our youngest daughter from afar along with any friends they want to bring. Eat a turkey with trimmings and fresh bread, (hopefully mend some fences that need mending) enjoy one another. And...watch a marionette show that I will present for their entertainment. That may either laugh with me or at me--I don't care.
There has been a lot of hurt in the family. I just want them to find their way back to each other.
Happy Christmas and have a lovely time together!---Maeve
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A bona fide Circuit Overseer endorses jw.net!
by abiather inthough he is a typical wt slave, we are like david and jonathan.. in my most intimate conversation with him, i asked him:.
how do you manage serving an organization built on inherent contradictions?.
he said: organization helps people to grow spiritual, like any other religious organizations do.
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Hello there, NeverKnew!
The problem seems to be how MUCH outside the Church-box we think.
The Conference of American Catholic Religious Sisters--the nuns are struggling to follow their conscience, Jesus and perform their duties to the poor. Yet they are constantly running afoul of the hierarchy. They have wondered if their promise of obedience is to the church or to God.
I appreciate that there are places where you can grow--I am only saying this: churches do have their rules.
edit: that said, Pope Francis is bending them. Best one they've had in a while.
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A bona fide Circuit Overseer endorses jw.net!
by abiather inthough he is a typical wt slave, we are like david and jonathan.. in my most intimate conversation with him, i asked him:.
how do you manage serving an organization built on inherent contradictions?.
he said: organization helps people to grow spiritual, like any other religious organizations do.
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Until we have a case like the man defrocked, I can agree with you. Perhaps his church let him think as he liked --until his son was gay and wanted to be married.
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I have JUST become a GREAT GRANNY Of Twins.
by mouthy inhenry 51bs 12 oz,eve 51bs 14 oz...phil my grnason by marriage just called.. ashley the new mum) my granddaughter who herself was a twin,from my melanie who died when she was 42(cancer).
they are doing well born by ceaserian at 2.40p.m today!!!!!
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Double the fun!!!!!
Happy for you all!!!
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Disciplinary Actions
by Cold Steel induring a disciplinary procedure, what would the response be if you wanted representation?
an advocate?.
why don't they have a group of unbiased men, a prosecutor to present the case against you and an advocate that would represent the accused?
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thedog1,
Go to the top of this page, click on "Search".Type in "How I left Jehovah's Witnesses/ Maeve Courteau"
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Disciplinary Actions
by Cold Steel induring a disciplinary procedure, what would the response be if you wanted representation?
an advocate?.
why don't they have a group of unbiased men, a prosecutor to present the case against you and an advocate that would represent the accused?
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thedog1,
Your message showed up.
My matter was not that I misbehaved. I had a conscience matter that involved Genesis 22. The entire series of letters, including Bethel's response is on line. I will find the link.
The issue, as simply as I can state it,then and now is that it seemed more proper to allow me to read the bible account of what God asked of Abraham rather than the interpretation in My Book of Bible Stories.
The brothers initially--Or at least the one they let speak for them--told me that I must use the literature as it stood. I asked "Not the Bible?" He laid his hand on the yellow Bible Story Book and told me to use it. He told me that I had my own interpretation of the account. I told him, not so. The word for "burnt offering" carried not the same meaning as "sacrifice" in Hebrew. Therefore the Book of Bible Stories was the interpretation--I wanted at least to allow for the ambiguity of the text in view of the contradictions (unanswerable and horrible) the literature presented.
They recessed and to it to the Circuit Overseer. Then it went to Bethel.
I wanted to know if you would have told me not to read the Bible account instead of the Bible Story Book.
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Disciplinary Actions
by Cold Steel induring a disciplinary procedure, what would the response be if you wanted representation?
an advocate?.
why don't they have a group of unbiased men, a prosecutor to present the case against you and an advocate that would represent the accused?
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thedog1,
I hope you respond to my question on page 1.
To Gopher's point, I signed on to follow the bible (I took it very seriously). The literature trumped the bible I discovered. What was I to do?
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this week's wt study
by thedog1 ini conducted the wt study tonight on higher education.
i wondered what the reaction of the bros and sis would be.
there was no deviation from the idea that a university education is not a good idea.
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thedog1,
Please tell us what you think of CoC when you finish it. I read it after I was out.
Maeve