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  Are Men's Rights Laughable?

  by Paralipomenon in

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  reading over the woody allen thread i noticed a couple things but didn't want to side track the "discussion".

  1) woody allen is creepy.

  2) nobody really seemed to care that his ex-wife was abusive towards her children.. an example i think is perfect was the release of twilight where you would see lineups of 30-40 year old women making very inappropriate comments about a 16 year old boy.

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  humbled

  Men often are ashamed to report aggressions made on them by women.
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  Are Men's Rights Laughable?

  by Paralipomenon in

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  reading over the woody allen thread i noticed a couple things but didn't want to side track the "discussion".

  1) woody allen is creepy.

  2) nobody really seemed to care that his ex-wife was abusive towards her children.. an example i think is perfect was the release of twilight where you would see lineups of 30-40 year old women making very inappropriate comments about a 16 year old boy.

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  humbled

  There is a lot of bad stuff on both sides. Men often do have a hard time getting the rights coming to them.

  It makes me tired to remember all the bad stuff that happens in the man/woman world that I know among family, friends and co-workers.

  Three years back I learned of a false rape accusation made on young man. I learned what happened in some detail because I knew him. His sister dug deep in her savings to pay for a good criminal lawyer --but it shattered him.

  The police detective dug into the matter and determined that his story panned out--and the accuser's ex-husband said she had done the same thing years before--cried rape when she was caught with a strange man in bed while married. Turns out she had repeated the act when her boy-friend accused her of "dating" on the side--she called "rape" again on that young man.

  The young man escaped prison but ended up in therapy. the lawyer told him he was fortunate. He would have been tagged as a sexual preditor for life.

  I knew a professional man whose mentally ill ex-girlfriend tracked him down and threw some movie tapes at him, shattering his glasses and cutting his face. He called the police saying she had attacked him (not the usual scenario, right?). She claimed the opposite. He said "I've got blood on my face" and said that he only hoped for one thing--" One of us needs to go to jail--and I do not care which of us it is."

  They thought for a minute--and took her.

  I know many stories like this--not from reading the papers, either. Men who cannot get custody of children who are harmed by mom's new man, mommy's drug habit. Of the four cases I know myself, one young man finally got custody of a child he had "accidentally" with a woman when they both were teens. He struggled for visits. Worried about the drugs in the baby momma's life and finally won custody when the momma got busted for drugs. The girl is fine and 12 years old now.

  But of course,men do bad stuff, too. Molestaters and abusers among them. Some one I knew years back cried on the phone to me--she wouldn't call it rape because she knew the fellow and they both had been drinking---but she had never been "with" a man before. She felt like a slut.

  Three weeks later she missed her period.

  The guy was an ass about everything.

  Little girls and little boys with no justice, no help.

  I wish people would JUST BE FAIR! be good to each other. No prejudice against women or prejudice against men. Make fair laws and apply law fairly---no matter if the accused or the accuser has no money.

  Not everyone has a big sister wih deep pockets to hire "justice".

  I almost skipped this thread. It is so rotten what people do to each other.

  Take care, Paralip
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  I am not going for JC!

  by exWTslave in

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  this morning two elders visited me and said this years memorial day is on april 14, and we are informing you well in advance so that you can arrange your affairs and attend.

  [i had given them the impression that i am very busy due to my secular assignments, hence most of the time out of station.].

  then i thought two elders visiting me cannot have an ordinary purpose, and i should give them a piece of my mind.

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  humbled

  It feels good to be honest, right?

  It wears on you to self-edit all the time. Stop yourself from thinking and saying anything to rock the boat.

  Welcome, ExWTslave!

  Maeve
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  DEEP SH*T. . .but interesting sh*t

  by Terry in

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  think of greek philosophy as rock n' roll.. .

  there is still classical music, but, rock and roll overtook and dominanted popular tastes and changed the marketplace.. .

  now, think of hip hop in relation to rock and roll.. .

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  humbled

  James M. West's online article "Gnostic Enigmas in the Gospel of John" presents strong parallels to the deep sh*t you mention, Terry. He makes the point that the writer of John is very nearly the anti-orthodox gospel. In fact, elsewhere, the John Gospel is attributed to Mary the Magdalene--

  The non-canonical sayings of Jesus and the ideas you mention have given me pause to not discard the possibility--even the probability--that a thoughtful workman in the "spot" he occupied in time and place may well have framed up a god that raised the hackles of the scribes, priests and pharisees. Not more or less than a fellow who was sick of the Org. of his day.

  It's not a long read, West's bit. I'd post it here if I had the expertise to do it.

  thanks for the thread, Terry.

  Nice when we are able to think out side the box that's outside THAT box :>)

  Maeve
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  Schizophrenia

  by thedog1 in

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  that is what it feels like at the moment.

  i am leading a field service group tomorrow morning.

  taking the wt study on saturday.

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  humbled

  It is harrowing.

  When you know that you are trying to response to God as you know him and you cannot talk with honesty to your friends in faith about that God-because they would think you were infected or deranged.

  I myself ended up staying home, not answering my phone except for family members, my job and the elders voicemails. Finally when it resolved months later I got unfrozen.

  But, then, I was not an elder. Still, I did learn that the world did not end just because I did not talk to anyone or go to meetings until the situation resolved for me.

  Hang in there, dogwon.
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  Had a strange moment last night.

  by thedog1 in

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  in my line of work i have to deal with a lot of different people each day in a teaching capacity.

  sometimes, with adults that i teach, we have some informal discussions not directly related to the subject being taught, but still important as far as developing a friendly relationship in the classroom.

  anyway, yesterday i noticed that in one class the students had been given a little religious calendar in a diary form, quite a popular thing for people to do in the country i live in.

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  humbled

  My truck knew before I did that I was "out".

  After several meetings with the elders covering a certain topic I'd written Bethel about ( we were waiting for the FDS/Corporation to respond), I realized I was unable to comment at the WT study (though I'd been encouraged to participate). My heart just wasn't in it.

  Finally, there came a Sunday when I was driving to the Sunday meeting and my truck's wheels seemed to turn by themselves into an empty parking lot about a mile from the kHall. I was shaking and soon began talking to myself and crying. I kept saying over and over again: "I can't go I can't go I can't go."

  And I never went to a meeting again. Only one time more in the Hall for a final meeting with the PO and another elder to discuss the Bethel letter.

  Like you, thedog1 and all the others, somrthing deep inside knew before I did that I was done with this false life.
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  My Explanation of Why They Got it Wrong About Blood Using Only the NWT

  by cofty in

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  10 " any israelite or any alien living among them who eats any bloodi will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from his people.

  12 therefore i say to the israelites, "none of you may eat blood, nor may an alien living among you eat blood.

  15 'anyone, whether native-born or alien, who eats anything found dead or torn by wild animals must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be ceremonially unclean till evening; then he will be clean.

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  humbled

  A wonderful thing to read. This makes sense.
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  Christians, Christians where is the Love?

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
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  thousands of muslims left bangui in a massive convey friday that was .

  jeered by crowds of christians.

  one muslim who fell off a truck was.

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  humbled

  zed, Jesus & Gandhi
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  Argument with my Child "Why did I stay in the Organization so long?" Anger and Bitter Feelings.

  by RottenRiley in

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  last night my third oldest child wanted to know why we stayed in the organization so long.

  child is a third year college student enjoying all the classes this "wicked system" has to offer, the insatiable appetite for learning makes him want to argue and debate, i don't have the energy to debate because i don't feel good with all life has thrown our way.. .

  "the only reason i went to meetings so long was because grandma and grandpa needed somebody to take them to meetings and cobe aunt and uncle and secretary aunt and uncle refused to talk to grandma for years, otherwise i would have stopped attending the kingdom hall because the kids were assholes and i was always the one who had to make "first contact", "i was the one who had to go around and meet and greet newbies while the regular jw wall-flowers (calebs) ignored all the visitors and new persons visiting our kingdom hall.

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  humbled

  I don't know how long you were in, but they invited me to to the free home bible study--

  I was carefully brought along and the little rural congregation that "courted" me were loving. I didn't see the hand-writing on the wall for a long, long time.

  I too, have apologized from the bottom of my heart to my family. Seven (7!)children and my husband for 22 years of it.

  Your kids have a chance to be free and make a life. You have had a lot of adult years blighted.

  Just tell them your belief in god and the Bible made you suceptable. At least it did me.

  All the best...My kids have forgiven me.

  Maeve
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  Feeling alone...

  by bohm in

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  hey, im bohms girlfriend.

  i thought i was feeling better... i quitted the anti depressant a year ago - but now ive started again.

  i know the jw isnt the truth- but i feel so very lonely.

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  humbled

  Hi, GF

  I'm an xJW mom. 61 years old. One of my sons was baptised--He is out now and counseling has been a VERY good thing for him. Go if you can. It is hard to get oriented in life if you have never known anything but the KH community. GIVE YOURSELF TIME. and fill it with some quiet--but also with new or old interests.

  Lots of us have been in something similar to your situation.. There is a life, a good one, waiting for you to make it happen.

  Maeve