Hoser,
Lol! I thought you gave an amazingly insightful response to my weird post. I thought it was perfect--I am going to see a therapist too!
I hope a good outcome for the two of us!
Maeve
as a kid growing up in the uk we used to play 'cowboys and indians' and watch high chaparal and bonanza along with other cowboy films.
later, in the 70's kung fu would be shown with caine going through the 'old west'.
we even had a chocolate bar that was marketed with a 'cowboy' theme...milky bar.. as far as i know the 'wild west' as shown on tvdidn't actually exist.. are there people that believe it did?.
Hoser,
Lol! I thought you gave an amazingly insightful response to my weird post. I thought it was perfect--I am going to see a therapist too!
I hope a good outcome for the two of us!
Maeve
as a kid growing up in the uk we used to play 'cowboys and indians' and watch high chaparal and bonanza along with other cowboy films.
later, in the 70's kung fu would be shown with caine going through the 'old west'.
we even had a chocolate bar that was marketed with a 'cowboy' theme...milky bar.. as far as i know the 'wild west' as shown on tvdidn't actually exist.. are there people that believe it did?.
My husband is 81 now but he cowboyed, rodeoed and broke horses (Mostly in Montana, some in Texas, one winter/spring in California from 1950 until 1955 or so. He broke his leg so badly in a horse accident that he could only return to his mother's house in Minneapolis, MN and wait for it to heal. He enrolled at the University of Minnesota and....did well. There he met and married his first wife. they followed an academic life together, but he got more and more away from teaching. More and more back to horses and cattle.
Then he met me.
We ended up doing a lot of things that had to do with cattle and horses--though I knew nothing about it. Most of which did not fit any classic old west version of cowboying. We lived in the Ozark mountains. But made a foray into Nebraska in a covered wagon in 1981. We had 9 horses and a mule, a crazy dog, a cat who bailed out in the first half mile out of the Kansas leg of the journey. And three children. One a nursing toddler--(No delicate baby food to be had. I could eat rough-anything and it always came out as milk.)
My husband left Dec 1, 1980 alone in the wagon. He went for a couple weeks and got a job as night watchman in a stockyard at Parsons, KS. He sent for me and the three children we arived on a Greyhound bus after Christmas and lived in a shack by a river outside of town. Resumed the journey when the spring grass came in. Around May 1st. Arrived Maxwell Nebraska June 21, 1981. 43 days of actual road time for the 850 mile journey. We eventually had to return to Arkansas with a ridiculous number of goats and a milk cow, 5 bottle calves, cat (she stayed),and one more baby.
Our checkered past. We did all kinds of stuff to live with his horses, on the land. Many times it was a mess. Often it was beautiful. Just Beautiful. Sometime, as time went on it became --at least for us-- impossible. Others do manage, we cared for others land and cattle, kept some ourselves--a motley lot of odd lots from the sale barn-- but now we make our living this way and that. for God's sake--he is 81 and been brokenup alot. I will not say this is normal. But we people do strange things, don't we?
A book my husband Dick recommends for the life of the old time cowboy: A Texas Cowby: or, Fifteen years on the Hurricane Deck of a Spanish Pony by Charles Siringo. This fellow was born in 1855 and came of age in the golden age of the cowboy.
If there were any way to post pictures, I would. I will see if my son can do it some time.
Was I crazy? I became one of Jehovah's Witnesses, right? So there's no defense for me.
in the blog http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com bloggers john shore, john loftus, and robert price are watching the dismantling of christinaity over the lgbt question in the us.
see the 10/17/2014 post.. coupled with the scandals of the megachurches lately many christians are asking questions for the first time on how things have gotten this way and where is the holy spirit to protect the church and people.. .
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UnstoppableRavens,
How is this not the base of universal morality: love your neighbor as yourself?
If this Golden Rule reflects for both atheists and believers the axis of moral behavior, Christians can come to peace with unbelievers. Jesus ties this Golden Rule to the love of God. Read Luke 10:25-37.
Christianity would do better if this love of neighbor were the entire focus--perhaps it would not be bleeding membership through the many wounds caused by superfluous religious doctrines.
(Going to work--will check in later. Also, good to have you back!)
Then Good Night, Grace. Sweet dreams.
this interview in der spiegel is well worth your time.... peter piot was one of the scientists who discovered ebola in 1976. turns out it was the fault of catholic nuns who coldn't be bothered to sterilise the needles they were using to administer vitamins to pregnant women.. he describes the present outbreak as "a perfect storm" which could claim a frightening number of lives in africa and india.
he doesn't see it as a serious threat to countries with a modern health care system.. "i still remember exactly: one day in september, a pilot from sabena airlines brought us a shiny blue thermos and a letter from a doctor in kinshasa in what was then zaire...".
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SafeAtHome --hahahahahaha
christopher columbus discovered the new world in the same way that a meteorite discovered the dinosuars.. here is some stuff about c.c.
they might not teach in school.... .
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Great thread.
"History" can be the worst obstacle to peace and understanding.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jehovahs-witnesses-sex-abuse-scandal-4422943#ixzz3fwm1uttl.
jehovah's witnesses sex abuse scandal: church accused of cover-up to protect rapists and paedophiles oct 11, 2014 21:11. .
by grace macaskill.
Sexual violence and religious abuse of biblical proportions.
this is my first post here.. i was raised in "the truth", and am an ex-bethelite who worked in brooklyn for several years back in the 90's.
a few years after i left bethel, i started to become disillusioned after doing research about the society and reading crisis of conscience (i know..i wasn't supposed to do that lol).
i eventually stopped attending meetings and going out in service.
Jhine,
Thanks for responding.
The problem of securing the most current and the most reliable information on facts of the bible is never-ending.
How to ascertain that most current and reliable information requires one to already know what the factors are that bear on biblical scholarship to begin with. To evaluate the material and recognize the weight of a scholarly opinion requires a measure of knowledge, too. And I must say that I am wary of any scholar's findings being unbiased who has made strong testimony of unshakable faith in the bible. In a secular court this one would be kept even from a jury. A judge would recuse himself. One of the worst things that we can have happen to us is to be convinced of what is true before it has been proven.
The book of Job has scholarly reasons to suppose the beginning an ending had been added to an older story. The language structure an use of expressions were estimated as distant in time and geography from the Israelites. There were additions others supposed also-the speach of Elihu. It doesn't matter after a bit--not to me. The unerlying issue is this: for a person to sort out fact from fiction on their own is SILLY!
I find it incredible that a person in my situation is even on a computer and writing and thinking about any of this. Who has the time? I really don't. Who has the education? I have read and read and thought and thought. And I listen. And still--how educate am I? how knowledgeable?
I do happen to believe there was a carpenter who told great stories and had a great heart--my opinion. "love you neighbor as yourself" wasn't original but he taught it to me. At least I got his version of it in the Good Samaritan story. Beyond that--teaching and a few others--nothing need be verified. These stories contain all the practical aspects of living I can handle in any given day. That is as much sifting as I am capable of.
In fact, I will consider myself cured of religion when I can quit obsessing over the issue of Truth and get back to little "t" living.
Really, I appreciate your hanging onto the conversation. Your exploration of the WT will show you how the pitfalls of one-up-manship in biblical correctness can consume and burn people.
Be careful.
Maeve
https://www.anointedjw.org/apostasy_in_fenway.html.
not names of the anointed jws but names of elders and a location.. .
are we getting hints that this thing has legs?.
Before I left I realized and remarked to the elders that the dumbing-down of "anointed" brothers and sisters caused them to violate their credentials (Rev. 14:4,5) as followers of Jesus alone.
The GB taught that even anointed brothers (forget the sisters) who were NOT part of the GB were under the same requirement to obey the GB's mediations/teachings/rules that all the rest of the R&F were subject to.
Correct me if I'm wrong here. The brothers I showed that scripture to didn't correct me on that point.
No Christian of any real "class" would stick around this bunch anyhow.
dear and gentle readers,.
kindly apply the sweet words of our dear emily to why small deeds have been so meaningful to you or another individual in time of need.
no kindness is ever for naught.. deepest gratitude,.
Good night, Coco.
And good morning when it comes.