There was one that met in NYC earlier this year. A train ride away?
The thread was up around ?March?
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meet ups or support ?
by lonliwon inmy wife and i have been long time lurkers here and are now members .
we were wondering if anyone is aware of any groups or individuals that meet periodically within ( or a short drive from ) connecticut ?
we aren't looking to bash the past ... just to connect with others who understand and move on .
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Material such as the film at the end of this years convention confirms that I was right to take my kids out the religion
by jambon1 init’s quite affirming to see the horrific material that they’re serving up at the convention this year.
aside from blatant homophobia, the scenes at the end of the convention that are discussed on another thread stoop to new levels of fear mongering.
it seems to occur to nobody inside the organisation that this kind of material could trigger fear, deprsssion, anxiety, stress.
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BoC— right on! This is such a powerful propaganda piece. It sets the trigger button ride up there for the Hitllers/the governing body to brush gently and explode people’s fear centers.
Even using that hokey illustration from the book of Bible stories with Jesus on the Whitehorse and all their armies of heaven behind him—they make it work.When I think how quiet and ordinary -real -the rest of it was portrayed until that fantastical scene when Jesus comes and draws his bow. Mind blowing
This
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Receiving so much hate recently....
by stuckinarut2 inwell, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).
we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).
so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.
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People who are kind and good to others deserve social torture and death for rejecting the Truth.
I remember this teaching. It was the core of JW identity. Is why we were sent out to preach even if it took money we didn’t have any time away from our families from our mental health. “ Lives are at stake!”
I read the whole thread it really struck me —for you guys, it looks like the jig is up. If I understand it they have discovered that you’ve been “out” for a while but you have nevertheless maintained a very warm connection with them. And that is terrifying to them.
PaleEmporer mentioned cognitive dissonance as the force behind the hate. That is right. You guys have come too close to their hearts. Death death death!
It is breathtaking.
But you guys sound like you are in good shape. Glad you are going to just move on.
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My Personal Atheist Manifesto?
by dubstepped inso, i have a guy that is emailing me after listening to my podcast series "this jw life" about my life story before, during, and after being a jw.
this guy happens to be an elder and pioneer serving where the need is greater.
i love this guy.
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This has been a fascinating read. Your thoughts and then his remarks.
This JW elder operates with uncharacteristic mercy but must not have had to pass judgement on a person who has read the same “apostate” books he has opened?
Would he cast stones at a man or a woman who was caught writing what Dub wrote?
When you see a group of elders become a dark mass when WT teachings are questioned you have to wonder would this elder would stand up, stand apart from the execution squad ?
l had an elder who said he took to heart the admonition to “have the mind of Christ”. But in the end l would say he was a coward when l was in trouble.
After all, this guy?—he is hiding now just to talk to Dub.
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https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2331236
To say video games and social anxiety and bullying are the primary factors in profiles of mass shooters in schools would basically include every nineth grader in America, to parsphrase a psychologist in the above article.There are other things mentioned that I have wondered about. Isolation. And not knowing what to do to be a man. Because it is pointed out that these are young men. Also it seems to me that they are not minority students.
So l wonder what these young guys do in a day? Are they mostly suburban? Do they interact with other kids by playing in the streets after school like we did when we didn’t have the country to run around in?Of course when I was growing up and when I had my children there were women that stayed at home so kids could run around in their backyards or streets. And we sorted out a lot of stuff ourselves. They didn’t have latchkey kids do much.
We didn’t have a lot of money but when we lived in an Iowa town kids’ moms all worked. If they wanted to dig holes, run around and scuffle they had to have an at-home parent to ride herd on them-me. Like When l grew up kids ran around, sorted life out and moms were at home.
Iam not saying moms shouldn’t have outside jobs. I am only describing the life l had when there were no school shootings. This didn’t mean that they were not kids that lived in isolation and did some deep internal suffering. There’s a guy named Seymour that we just avoided. There was a kid named Kippy who decapitated our pet rabbit and was really creepy. I’m sure at least of one these guys had trouble and cause a lot of grief when he grew up. But they didn’t shoot up the schoolmates.
It seems that these kids have the burden of figuring out why they are alive. Our world of choices is maybe something they can’t get a grasp on. For a middle-class kid to figure out what they’re supposed to do with themselves these days maybe it is not as cut and dry it as it was 50 years ago.
Just my thoughts.
edit: l guess l was describing a sense of community.? It is a mind bender.
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Another Hollywood Memory
by TerryWalstrom inanother hollywood memory____________________“thanks for the pink chablis, marta.
who’s that singing?
sounds familiar.”.
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That is a huge happiness for Christie to contact you. Connections matter. They matter.
Thanks for all your efforts, Terry, trying to help bridge our broken connections with ourselves and others.
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Material such as the film at the end of this years convention confirms that I was right to take my kids out the religion
by jambon1 init’s quite affirming to see the horrific material that they’re serving up at the convention this year.
aside from blatant homophobia, the scenes at the end of the convention that are discussed on another thread stoop to new levels of fear mongering.
it seems to occur to nobody inside the organisation that this kind of material could trigger fear, deprsssion, anxiety, stress.
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The message is, you better obey us in every small aspect of your life, including leisure time at the cinema, or who knows what will happen to you.
Exactly. Their criminal destruction of normal perceptions of reality is made plain in this film.
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Material such as the film at the end of this years convention confirms that I was right to take my kids out the religion
by jambon1 init’s quite affirming to see the horrific material that they’re serving up at the convention this year.
aside from blatant homophobia, the scenes at the end of the convention that are discussed on another thread stoop to new levels of fear mongering.
it seems to occur to nobody inside the organisation that this kind of material could trigger fear, deprsssion, anxiety, stress.
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Thanks, jambon,
It’s good to know what we’re up against. I couldn’t understand the audio- but that wasn’t what this was about. Imagery was incredibly powerful. For a change the WT understated instead of sledgehammered until the end when raw Armageddon narrative opened in the brilliant heavens.
I admit that this film might have shattered me at a certain point when I was leaving. Seeing these actors play out moments that trigger memory of hard choices-hard struggles-you made to get to a meeting to go out ministry. (And now l don’t?—omg- am l a faithless coward?)
I had to quickly go through my mental file of how certain CERTAIN I am that this religion is distructive of our free will and destroys love and life when it can.
I realign myself. l recognize the men masked with the balaclavas and menacing with guns —they are the Governing Body. They are the dark ones who subverted, who harassed these people, who skinned and abused these people.
If there if there is a moment when the forces of Good come to save the Great Crowd, the surprise will come when the masks get pulled from those guys—the creeps are the GB & Co.
O come Lord Jesus!
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Neanderthals - Meet Your Ancestors
by Earnest intonight (sunday, 13th may) at 20:00 on bbc 2 ... for neanderthal believers, agnostics and deniers.. this first programme in a two-part series investigates what neanderthals looked like and and how they lived in their ice age world.
it turns out that almost everything we thought we knew about them is wrong.
they weren't hunched, grunting, knuckle-dragging ape-men at all.
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Xanthippe—The scientist that sequenced the Neanderthal genome made me smile when he said Neanderthals wanted to stay alive but homosapiens are mad...
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Scary Effectiveness of Assembly Videos
by Captain Schmideo2 inwell, i got to see the final day of this years regional convention.and i saw something that disturbs me.. the final, "summing up review" video.
it disturbs me because it was so well done.
(i wish i could remember the title of the song), to the strains of a solo vocalist singing in a fine "irish tenor", we see the actors from the previous videos of the last few days all assembling together in a clearing.
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Truly disturbing. Terrible for children.