Hey, undubbed!
As in “hell-o, devil’s advocate!”
my dad died a couple years back (not how you thought this would start, i know).
he was an elder, and a very emotionally abusive father, well before the point where he ever shunned me.
he died pretty much penniless, and never would buy life insurance or anything.
Hey, undubbed!
As in “hell-o, devil’s advocate!”
don’t know how i ended up here but no one who understands will listen, or any one who will listen doesn’t understand.
i grew up in the “truth”, i was baptised at 17 as it was encouraged by the elders.
i really didn’t understand what i was getting into.
No more.
You don’t respond to my posts, my questions.They are based on precisely the beliefs JWs hold regarding the Faithful Slave, the Anointed, having love of others who suffer, freedom to “follow the Lamb”, etc.
You are indulging yourself in behavior that is outlawed by your religion, your GB. The one you preach to me. As l said before—good for you. But if you are too fearful or too dishonest to acknowledge that point then l am not interested in responding to you.
The troubled kid has been more honest than you are at this point.
Curiousconfused—Tommy Robinson has put his life on the line more than once to accomplish at least this: to make folks look up the issues ,get involved, lean on the lawmakers to sort it out before there is violence.
He has been rowdy and confused but he has truly been one of the voices crying in a wilderness. : Make laws straight, make everyone accountable, and look at the negative impact of unassimilated Muslims. ( even for Muslims)
my dad died a couple years back (not how you thought this would start, i know).
he was an elder, and a very emotionally abusive father, well before the point where he ever shunned me.
he died pretty much penniless, and never would buy life insurance or anything.
I am crazy happy for you! O the irony!
don’t know how i ended up here but no one who understands will listen, or any one who will listen doesn’t understand.
i grew up in the “truth”, i was baptised at 17 as it was encouraged by the elders.
i really didn’t understand what i was getting into.
I would be clear on this- l do not have to answer you on loyalty or a litmus test on doctrine. I am as free as you are to select what l do and do not value in the Bible. If you choose to break with the GB —fine. But clearly you are pointing this young man toward the prison you allow yourself to freely leave.
You tell Damaged to read the scriptures as though the Organization considers the scriptures have the power to heal without their imprimatur on every verse. The GB do not even like JWs to meet and study without oversight. They regulate love of God’s word with the same overreach as they do the physical love between couples. I have read the introductions to old Catholic bibles that warned of the danger that personal reading presents. They are honest about it. The Watchtower is more overbearing and yet pretend to liberate people from a clergy class who tells you ( they sneer)what the Bible says.
You are at odds with the explicit teaching of the organization whose teachings you are claiming to uphold. Good for you. Acknowledge it.
don’t know how i ended up here but no one who understands will listen, or any one who will listen doesn’t understand.
i grew up in the “truth”, i was baptised at 17 as it was encouraged by the elders.
i really didn’t understand what i was getting into.
I live by those teachings yet.
The GB does not
you made your First Post staunchly supporting the GB as Jehovah’s mouthpiece.
You never responded to my post then that charges the GB with corrupting the faith of Jesus’ followers by requiring that the “Anointed” must obey the GB as ruler rather than God.
edit: You don’t know any individuals here unless you’ve been lurking( again-a prohibited activity). I have acknowledged often that Jesus’ teachings saved my life. The love l heard in the gospels ultimately helped me leave a place that warred againsts the generosity you highlight above.
don’t know how i ended up here but no one who understands will listen, or any one who will listen doesn’t understand.
i grew up in the “truth”, i was baptised at 17 as it was encouraged by the elders.
i really didn’t understand what i was getting into.
If god is love then love is god.
You know that love is not alive in the Organization. It separates its members from one another and by the mechanization of its corrupt teaching separates you from a spiritual connection with love.
Religion by committee is a perversion —even of the Bible.
Do you want love in your life? Do not go to the destructive world of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
black spirit- to even speak of love to apostates on this forum you had to become an apostate yourself. You know that you have flouted the explicit teachings of the GB to come here.
So you are advising this fellow who found no help no love in the religion to return? You are twisted. You are proving how heartless the religion really is. You have to break their rules to be a decent person in that sick world.
this is the message that was posted on the jw inbox announcements tab.
i have copy pasted it as it was.
if anyone from india has any information related to this, please do share.. regards.. urgent: child trafficking accusations.
purrpurr- When you read the histories of trafficked children the traffickers need a victim who will be silent or ignored.
blankspace wrote— As far as I am aware, this group ( the PIMOs)trying to get help for these children)is having a hard time convincing victims to testify. To begin with, there is the problem of social stigma even if you're not a JW. So if it's known that a boy or girl was abused, they become "used goods" here. The girl's life is over and the boy is labeled as being weak.
So these children are very available for exploitation.
has anyone else seen the movie "confessions of a teenage jesus jerk"?.
im still processing it, and trying to work out my thoughts..... i would be interested in others thoughts..
Those next years are fraught with every type of "spiritual" peril and the person facing them all is just a kid. My parents never had to face any of that, and neither did my wife's, as they came in as adults.
Being born in is the worst, isn’t it?
yesterday they started a three part series on hasidic jews living mostly in brooklyn and new jersey and how they take advantage of the system and at the same time rule with an iron hand for bidding the use of modern technology, smart phones, tv etc .
if you think the witnesses are bad, take a look at them.
they ostracize you and kick your children out of their schools and treat you as nonexistent !
Scratchme— l read an article reporting on the experiences of a young Hasidic woman in the US.
Unreal
To minimize physical contact ON THE WEDDING NIGHT the newlyweds made contact through a sheet with a hole in it.
The rabbi checks the woman’s undergarments to ascertain the woman’s periods. The married woman is to shave her head and wear a wig.
How true is it? I would have to read more. Being born in to these crazy religions!!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2012/02/07/i-was-a-hasidic-jew-but-i-broke-free/amp/
Pretty extreme.
As sparrowdown said— sad and rather ironic that this sort of oppression of human beings that is perpetrated by a religion exists in the home of the "free."