history has demonstrated:.
religion is following orders by implicitly trusting someone or something.. science asks questions.. religion purports to answer questions.. science seeks to disprove its own conclusions.. religion seeks to reinforce its own dogma.. science is error-correction toward adjusting for realities as they unfold.. religion internalizes against reality by mocking up a substitute.. science is the most recent development of the human mind.
technology proves science to be successful in advancing human progress.. religion disdains human progress and waits for the end.
Terry
Have you been stealing and manipulating my lines................
Fi says - It is about the human beings who enter either field, and what they do with the gifts and tools they have.
Terry says - The power and opportunity is always there. But, it is never God who makes it happen. It is man. MAN is the motor that moves the world for good or ill.
Gotta love you for that one.................
history has demonstrated:.
religion is following orders by implicitly trusting someone or something.. science asks questions.. religion purports to answer questions.. science seeks to disprove its own conclusions.. religion seeks to reinforce its own dogma.. science is error-correction toward adjusting for realities as they unfold.. religion internalizes against reality by mocking up a substitute.. science is the most recent development of the human mind.
technology proves science to be successful in advancing human progress.. religion disdains human progress and waits for the end.
Satanus
IS HEAVY THINKING RUINING YOUR LIFE? or are you a recovering thinker?
history has demonstrated:.
religion is following orders by implicitly trusting someone or something.. science asks questions.. religion purports to answer questions.. science seeks to disprove its own conclusions.. religion seeks to reinforce its own dogma.. science is error-correction toward adjusting for realities as they unfold.. religion internalizes against reality by mocking up a substitute.. science is the most recent development of the human mind.
technology proves science to be successful in advancing human progress.. religion disdains human progress and waits for the end.
Terry I have to ask you this
If you particpated in Christmas as a child (from what I understand you were not raised as a JW) did you honestly feel deceived as a child because you were led to believe in Santa?
Has it had a lasting impact on your ability to trust?
I cant answer these questions myself because I was raised as a JW and as such never experienced Santa.
I have talked with my husband about this subject and he describes Christmas and the white lie that Santa was coming or had been as a wonderful time and experience. He doesnt believe in Santa now and has a fantastic relationship with his dad, and also had with his mother when she was alive. It hasnt impacted on his ability to be reasoning and logical and he does not have an underlying distrust of things.
Fi
history has demonstrated:.
religion is following orders by implicitly trusting someone or something.. science asks questions.. religion purports to answer questions.. science seeks to disprove its own conclusions.. religion seeks to reinforce its own dogma.. science is error-correction toward adjusting for realities as they unfold.. religion internalizes against reality by mocking up a substitute.. science is the most recent development of the human mind.
technology proves science to be successful in advancing human progress.. religion disdains human progress and waits for the end.
"No island is a man"
We learn for ourselves and from one another. I am not debating your method for folk to learn. I am all for the lesson DO WHAT IS RIGHT because all wrong behaviour has a BAD CONSEQUENCE. I am totally against force, fear or bribery for trying to teach, educate people or rear children.
If you want the religious theme taken away call it CONTEMPLATIVE SCIENCE. I understand if you remove the Bhuddist word as a religious concept and look at what can be learnt from the philosophy of Buddhism it would benefit mankind.
To quote Sam Harris author of the End of Faith
"What the world needs most at this moment is a means of convincing human beings to embrace the whole of the species as their moral community. For this we need to DEVELOP an utterly nonsectarian way of talking about the full spectrum of human experience and aspiration. We need a discourse on ethics and spirituality that is every bit as unconstrained by dogma and cultural predjudice as the discourse as science is.
So Terry I ask you what 'means' would you use?
can someone make this clickable as it is quite funny............... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkz4qgvqbhi.
Satanus it was part of a whole hour long programme about buying 3 cars in the USA and driving across part of it with various challenges. If you have never seen Top Gear, it is very funny and full of all sorts of stunts every week. The car had needed jump starting throughout the trip.
And Richard Hammond (or Hamster as we Brits know him) was the TV presenter who had a horrific crash, just before christmas, trying to beat the land speed record for Top Gear. He was the one driving the pick up and obviously he survived the accident.
Fi
can someone make this clickable as it is quite funny............... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkz4qgvqbhi.
Can someone make this clickable as it is quite funny..............
clue - outdoor entertainment (4,9).
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thank you Nathan.........
clue - outdoor entertainment (4,9).
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Clue - Outdoor entertainment (4,9)
Letters already got
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history has demonstrated:.
religion is following orders by implicitly trusting someone or something.. science asks questions.. religion purports to answer questions.. science seeks to disprove its own conclusions.. religion seeks to reinforce its own dogma.. science is error-correction toward adjusting for realities as they unfold.. religion internalizes against reality by mocking up a substitute.. science is the most recent development of the human mind.
technology proves science to be successful in advancing human progress.. religion disdains human progress and waits for the end.
Actually I never called it a virtue.
And I agree with what you are you saying....................to a large part.
But you didnt answer my question. Is teaching people to 'love thy neighbour' or 'do unto others as you would have done yourself' wrong?
Yes the history of religion and how it has been developed and used to control vunerable people is wrong. But in this thread you have also spoken of how 'experts can be bought' 'the science of the tobacco industry' and how 'money corrupts'. So science and those that follow experts can be vunerable too and subject to being misled.
I think 'our problem' is one of how we view life going forward from this point in time.
I see that religion is attractive to millions of people, and as such is a huge resource that could be, if people were honourable, exploited to educate and improve people's lives. You, I think, see it as redundant.
my best friend and his wife had hired an elder to do some refinishing work in their basement.
they kept their tv and vhs tapes (pre dvd era) down there.
it seems dear brother was a bit of a nosy fella, so he just happened to pop in one of their home movies of a trip they had taken to cuba and found some footage of my friend smoking a cigar.
I hope they didnt pay him for the work.......................
