Thanks for the predictions so far. There is something very suspicious about the 234 increase in remnant in just one year. How can the partaker numbers be almost flat lined for 20 years and then suddenly increase by 234!. I think the WTS has been cooking the books for the last 20 years but they finally see a potential way to get new converts into the religion by encouraging anyone to become a remnant without question!!. Now the door is wide open to every holy rollin kook out there!
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Taking predictions for the 2007 memorial partakers!!
by cultswatter ini'm doing this well in advance so that all the wonderful people on jwd can look back later and see just how close they were to the actual number!
(it is possible the wts might stop publishing the partaker numbers) in a few days, i will duly record the link to this thread for future reference.. remember that there were 8524 partakers in 2005 and 8758 partakers in 2006, an increase of 234 partakers.
so how many remnant will partake in 2007??.
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I know we're not supposed to speculate, but....
by journey-on inbased on a post today about the decrease in incoming donations to the wts and this.
i believe that the new mag arrangement starting next jan is the beginning of the wt becoming a really, really dangerous cult.
from another post, i speculate that the "for jws only" issue of the watchtower is going to be heavy on $$$ issues.
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Here is a scan I did of the 2006 WT mag. I call it "CREED of GREED"
http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=0e3b44dedc0598e93c1077c236b276f4
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Taking predictions for the 2007 memorial partakers!!
by cultswatter ini'm doing this well in advance so that all the wonderful people on jwd can look back later and see just how close they were to the actual number!
(it is possible the wts might stop publishing the partaker numbers) in a few days, i will duly record the link to this thread for future reference.. remember that there were 8524 partakers in 2005 and 8758 partakers in 2006, an increase of 234 partakers.
so how many remnant will partake in 2007??.
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I'm doing this well in advance so that all the wonderful people on JWD can look back later and see just how close they were to the actual number! (It is possible the WTS might stop publishing the partaker numbers) In a few days, I will duly record the link to this thread for future reference.
Remember that there were 8524 partakers in 2005 and 8758 partakers in 2006, an increase of 234 partakers
So how many remnant will partake in 2007??
I'll start by predicting there will be 9109 partakers in 2007
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What IS the "Worldwide Order"?
by Doug Mason inthe more i uncover, the more i realize how little i really know.. after putting my org chart together, i have a question: who or what is this worldwide order?.
if this is the formal name of the full-time members within the overall organization, what is the name of the overall organization?
could it be something like new world society?.
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kinda sounds masonic to me
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Update Regarding How The May 1 QFR Is "Playing" In The Congregations
by Justitia Themis ini have been emailing with a sister in my congregation regarding the qfr.
i told her i wasn't discussing it with most jws, because i didn't want to hear any of their "new light" garbage.
i told her this isn't new light; this just means that what we paraded out in 1935 as "new light" was wrong.. she sheepishly (no pun intended) agreed.
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I shocked my JW family with the QFR announcement before they had read the QFR themselves. They said "where did you get the May 1st WT mag." I said " It's all over the internet." STUNNED!!.
My take is this QFR article has mentally disturbed many JWs enough that they may just shuffle on over to google and enter "JW CULT" and see what they get.
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1935 and the Insight of the Anointed
by AlphaOmega inremember this from the may 1st qfr ???.
however, genuine anointed christians do not demand special attention.
they do not believe that their being of the anointed gives them special "insights," beyond what even some experienced members of the great crowd may have.
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AlphaOmega
Excellent catch
keep reeling them in!!!
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JWs use 1914 as proof that the devil was cast down, but...
by cultswatter indid you know the wts never announced that the devil was cast down until 1925!!
look at this now will ya.
quote from the book "babylon the great has fallen -god's kingdom rules".
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did you know the WTS never announced that the devil was cast down until 1925!! Look at this now will ya
Quote from The book "Babylon the great has fallen -God's kingdom rules"
In its issue of March 1, 1925, TheWatchTower published the leading article entitled "The Birth of The Nation," which was the first announcement that there had been war in heaven after the Gentile Times ended in 1914 and that the Devil and his angels had been cast down to our earth. But this was further called attention to later in the article "The King in Action" in the issue of September 15, 1925. This ousting of the Devil and his angels from heaven had its effect upon the "wild beast" and its kingdom here on earth. All this was forcefully presented in the book entitled "Deliverance," which was released on Friday, May 28, 1926, at the international convention in London, England, after the conventioners adopted a resolution entitled "A Testimony to the Rulers of the World." The sixth proposition of this resolution stated that "by reason of the blinding influence of Satan the minds of the rulers and the ruled are turned away from the true God."
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Outstanding no??. And to think that the WTS is supposed to be inspired. Why did they not announce that the devil was going to be cast down BEFORE 1914 if they were so prophetic?? Further more the WTS interpretation of the 7 trumpets started in 1922. They claim to have the correct interpretation for the 7 trumpets but were not enlightened about the devil being cast down until 1925 so how could they have been enlightened about the 7 trumpets??
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The 5th trumpet false prophecy by WT$ inc
by cultswatter inrevelation -- it's grand climax at hand chap.
22 pp.
142-148 the first woe--locuststhe first woe--locuststhe fifth angel prepares to blow his trumpet.
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Revelation -- It's Grand Climax At Hand chap. 22 pp. 142-148 The First Woe--Locusts The First Woe--Locusts THE fifth angel prepares to blow his trumpet. Four heavenly trumpets have already sounded, and four plagues have been directed to the third of the earth that Jehovah regards as most reprehensible--Christendom. Her deathly sick condition has been uncovered. While angels sound the trumpet blasts, human heralds follow through on earth. Now the fifth angelic trumpet is about to announce the first woe, more fearsome even than what has gone before. It is related to a terrifying locust plague. First, though, let us examine other scriptures that will help us to understand this plague better. [...] 6 Revelation, written some 26 years after Jerusalem's destruction, also describes that plague. What does it add to Joel's description? Let us take up the record, as reported by John: "And the fifth angel blew his trumpet. And I saw a star that had fallen from heaven to the earth, and the key of the pit of the abyss was given him." (Revelation 9:1) This "star" is different from that at Revelation 8:10 that John saw in the act of falling. He sees "a star that had fallen from heaven" and that now has an assignment with respect to this earth. Is this a spirit or a fleshly person? The holder of this "key of the pit of the abyss" is later described as hurling Satan into "the abyss." (Revelation 20:1-3) So he must be a mighty spirit person. At Revelation 9:11, John tells us that the locusts have "a king, the angel of the abyss." Both verses must refer to the same individual, since the angel holding the key of the abyss would logically be the angel of the abyss. And the star must symbolize Jehovah's appointed King, since anointed Christians acknowledge only the one angelic King, Jesus Christ.--Colossians 1:13; 1 Corinthians 15:25. 7 The account continues: "And he opened the pit of the abyss, and smoke ascended out of the pit as the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun was darkened, also the air, by the smoke of the pit. And out of the smoke locusts came forth upon the earth; and authority was given them, the same authority as the scorpions of the earth have." (Revelation 9:2, 3) Scripturally, "the abyss" is a place of inactivity, even of death. (Compare Romans 10:7; Revelation 17:8; 20:1, 3.) The small band of Jesus' brothers spent a short time in such an "abyss" of relative inactivity at the end of the first world war (1918-19). But when Jehovah poured his spirit upon his repentant servants in 1919, they swarmed forth to meet the challenge of the work that lay ahead. [...] World Rulers Put on Notice 18 The modern-day locusts had a job to do. The Kingdom good news had to be preached. Errors had to be exposed. Lost sheep had to be found. As the locusts went about these tasks, the world was forced to sit up and take notice. In obedience to the angels' trumpet blasts, the John class has continued to expose Christendom as deserving of Jehovah's adverse judgments. In response to the fifth trumpet, a particular aspect of these judgments was emphasized at a convention of the Bible Students in London, England, May 25-31, 1926. This featured a resolution, "A Testimony to the Rulers of the World," and a public talk at the Royal Albert Hall on "Why World Powers Are Tottering--The Remedy," the complete text of both of these being printed in a leading London newspaper the following day. Later, the locust band distributed worldwide, as a tract, 50 million copies of that resolution--a torment indeed to the clergy! Years later, people in England still spoke of this stinging exposé. 19 At this convention, the symbolic locusts received further fighting equipment, notably a new book entitled Deliverance. It included a Scriptural discussion of the sign proving that the 'man child' government, Christ's heavenly Kingdom, had been born in 1914. (Matthew 24:3-14; Luke 21:24-26; Revelation 12:1-10) Thereafter, it quoted the manifesto published in London in 1918 and signed by eight clergymen, who were described as being "among the world's greatest preachers." They represented the leading Protestant denominations--Baptist, Congregational, Presbyterian, Episcopalian, and Methodist. This manifesto proclaimed that "the present crisis points toward the close of the times of the Gentiles" and that "the revelation of the Lord may be expected at any moment." Yes, those clergymen had recognized the sign of Jesus' presence! But did they want to do anything about it? The book Deliverance informs us: "The most remarkable part of the affair is that the very men who signed the manifesto subsequently repudiated it and rejected the evidence which proves that we are at the end of the world and in the day of the Lord's second presence." 20 Rather than announce the incoming Kingdom of God, Christendom's clergy have chosen to remain with Satan's world. [...] (but later on we sided with Christendom and said that anyone can be a remnant and the door to heaven was not shut in 1935) ------ Whoopty doodle. The star that falls from heaven is Jesus and the locusts are the Jdub publishers . Oh what a shining example of false prophecy. Further the 5th trumpet sounded sometime during May 25-31, 1926 I can't believe how brainwahsed the dubs are to accept this B.S. prophecy!!.
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Another Jehovah's Witness psycho gets jail time
by cultswatter in.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_method=full%26objectid=18931521%26siteid=89520-name_page.html.
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JESUS REFUTES THE WATCHTOWER'S BLOOD POLICY
by Terry inthe watchtower bible and tract society represents itself as christian.. it represents its theology and policies as direct from jehovah god through his son, jesus christ.
further, the governing body of this corporation interposes itself between the mediator, jesus, and the rest of jehovah's (christian) witnesses for the purpose of "feeding them (spiritual) food at the proper time.. the official word of jesus christ is represented in the watchtower's policy on blood transfusions.. in 1998 this statement was made:.
jehovah's witnesses do not accept whole blood, or major components of blood, namely, red blood cells, white blood cells, platelets and plasma.
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Yes Terry a pregnant brain must give birth