Thanks, everyone! It was a lovely drive and I'd do it again.
CoCo - you're right, somehow moving furniture (and vacuuming behind it) is good for the soul.
went to montana, had a really good time.
flew there, drove back with a friend.
was gone eight days.
Thanks, everyone! It was a lovely drive and I'd do it again.
CoCo - you're right, somehow moving furniture (and vacuuming behind it) is good for the soul.
went to montana, had a really good time.
flew there, drove back with a friend.
was gone eight days.
Went to Montana, had a really good time. Flew there, drove back with a friend. Was gone eight days. We went to Missoula and then through a beautiful canyon in Idaho, past Lolo Hot Springs, through the Nez Perce reservation. Followed a river for miles and miles. It was beautiful and there was a lot of stuff to stop and see. I like to stop for yard sales and historical markers. My friend likes to stop for fish hatcheries and historical markers, so we got along fine and each got to do what she really wanted to do. That road took us through Idaho and into Oregon. One one of her stops we watched some huge salmon going up a fish ladder from a bit of river into the fish hatchery. They hatched in the hatchery, so they go back there to lay eggs when it is time to reproduce. We were pretty far inland, but the river there connects to the Columbia and so the fish could come all that way from the Pacific to spawn in eastern Oregon.
We stopped in Pendleton, Or for a night and wished we had time to stay longer. It has an old and interesting town center, with lots of buildings from pioneer days. We went to Picture Gorge which is awesome! Wouldn't mind doing that again. Look it up online -- it has layers and layers of fossils, going back 65 million years -- fossils from the entire age of mammals. We watched a scientist using a tiny tool to clean a tooth from what she says is a new species -- at least new to the scientists, eh? It lived millions of years ago and they aren't sure yet what it was. There was a camera on the microscope, so we could also see what she was doing on a screen.
Then Crater Lake, although the road around the lake wasn't completely open yet -- about 12 feet of snow still on some of the roads. But we could drive through the park along about 1/3 of the lake. Very beautiful, wouldn't mind doing that again when all the road around the lake is open. Besides the wonderful views, we could see lots and lots of tourists risking their lives by climbing over barriers to stand on the edge of the volcano mouth and look down into the lake. The little Crater Lake newspaper says that behavior results in serious injury and death every year, but still the yahoos did it. Highway 138 on the north of Crater Lake goes through National Forest and we saw some beautiful waterfalls.
I took a lot of pictures, but somehow the pictures never show the grandeur of the area. I wish you all could take that road trip -- so much to see! I am very tired today, and being tired makes me negative sometimes, so I'm moving furniture, rearranging my living room and thinking about my trip to make myself more cheerful. It was a good trip and next year my friend and I plant to drive from Billings up to Glacier Park and into Canada.
as i'm making my seventh cup for the day, i thought it would be a good idea to have an appreciation thread.
what's the best ground coffee?
beans?.
Caribbean Coffee -- not the coffee from the Caribbean but a company that sells all kinds of coffee. They have a kind called "Hair Raiser" coffee, very strong, good flavor. The company is in Santa Barbara, California, but they also have a website. They mostly sell to coffee bars, specialty grocery stores, that sort of thing.
Also, "Smooth and Mellow" from Trader Joe's -- of course TJs is just in the US as far as I know. It's a medium roast, very delicious.
Best place to get coffee? At home, if I make it for you.
i found on another thread a quote from awake 1967 aug 22,page 27-28. it's from an article where the wt proves that women should acquiesce to their husbands.
within the article i found something that suggests more intellectual dishonesty from the wt writers.. that it is in the best interests of both.
sexes for man to take the lead is also supported.
That makes me laugh! I once showed my husband an article from the LA Times that said men are happier if they just do what their wives tell them to do.
years and years ago, i had read something in a book that clinically examined joan of arc and gave a hypothesis regarding her visions, using her own descriptions of the episodes and using what she experienced as symptoms.
i can't remember if they had said it was epilepsy or a brain tumor.. i saw this article today and it got me thinking again.
i also started thinking about how in the past, gb has talked about visions/divine inspiration/whatever... russell even endorsed a woman's book where she supposedly spoke to a "fallen angel".. kinda made me wonder....
Thanks for sharing -- very interesting article.
it seems every cong seems to have some guy who is 35 and never had a job or moved out of mom and dads basement.. i knew a guy who just hand out magazines at work so he would get eventually fired and could sleep in till noon everyday.
of course his elder father though he was a real matyr cause he kept losing jobs for jehovah.
i have an electrican friend who apprenticed some jw kid till he got his ticket and he quit him to pioneering.
well, me, I suppose. At least until I got out of the org., when I wised up and started creating a real life. Poor sad pioneer, I was the one standing like a zombie on the corner downtown at the crack of dawn.
i have lots and lots of watchtower literature... and i don't know what could be useful in the future to have as a reference or as a keeper.
i am definitely keeping the 1993 and 1994 bound volumes of the awake!
(no, we are not false prophets... down in the same page, the generation of 1914 will not pass... also the youths who put god the watchtower first).
yeah, check out what things have sold for on ebay -- I got $35 once for a 2-page leaflet.
is that i was born into this cult, taught and believed that i was going to live forever, , that i was never going to have to die.
now i am in my mid 30's realizing that this life is all there is and that after that i am dead forever and i am terrified.
i don't want this to be all there is, , i don't want to just live a few years on this beautiful planet and then become non existent forever!
You'll relax in a while. You might need some anxiety meds for a bit. It's a hard pill to swallow -- ceasing to exist. It does make life more precious and makes me determined to live it in a worthwhile way. One thing to realize is that you won't know you're dead, at least that made me relax about the whole thing.
Lots of people, including me, seem to have anxiety on leaving the wtbts, for lots of reasons. I know counseling helped me a lot, and so did the anxiety meds. That's way behind me now and I don't worry about it any more. I think you'll get there, too, but you might need some help at first.
i havn't posted in months but have still lerked and read other posts, just never have time enough to do much of anything really.
in reading posts for the last few months i began to realize how much i empathize with thoughts expressed here.
i feel the need to clarify my situation because my previous posts don't really convey a complete picture regarding my experience with the jw world.
tough background -- esp. with no father and schizophrenic mother. Then add JWs to the mix.
I'm glad you can hang out here now and then, see that others feel the way you do and you're not alone.
across that stage tommorrow dressed in graduate garb picking up a masters degree.. .
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Wonderful!