Posts by Hortensia

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life after the wtbts

by Hortensia in

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you can't move forward to a new, more interesting, possibly much happier life, if you're still looking behind at the former life.. there is so much obsession on here about what the wtbts is doing, and discussing all the forms of injustice and bullshit in the wtbts, or how to bring down the wtbts.

yes, their doctrines are crazy and they are a cult and cruel to boot.

move on.

Hortensia

I guess I wrote this because of a creepy experience I had this weekend. Possibly over-reacting. I hang out here because I'm interested in what people do nowadays, because we have a shared experience in the past, and maybe to find someone I used to know that has escaped also. But I don't really understand the fascination with WT doctrine. Why care? And the desire to bring the WT down? I don't get it. Another one will pop up in its place. There are more dangerous religions on earth right now than the WT.

Not apologizing, just attempting to explain.

Maybe time to say so long? It's just that I like most of the folks here and really respect the intellect of some of you, too. I'm always curious. What's cofty going to say next? Or fulltimestudent? There's a lot of interesting conversation that goes on here. I just don't get the obsession with doctrine, or trying to sabotage the wtbts. I'm still a bit creeped out, I guess.

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life after the wtbts

by Hortensia in

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you can't move forward to a new, more interesting, possibly much happier life, if you're still looking behind at the former life.. there is so much obsession on here about what the wtbts is doing, and discussing all the forms of injustice and bullshit in the wtbts, or how to bring down the wtbts.

yes, their doctrines are crazy and they are a cult and cruel to boot.

move on.

Hortensia

Well, I guess I came across as unloving. Sorry about that. But it's so sad to see people still wrapped up in the wtbts years and years after they've physically left it. I didn't find this site until many years after I left the wtbts, and I hang out to see what people are doing, hear some stories about personal achievements like Sooner becoming a nurse, that sort of thing. Plus, we all understand each other in a way that people who have never been JWs can't understand.

I left behind family, friends, everyone I had known for my entire life, all in one fell swoop. Worked out for me in the long run to just turn my back on it all, and on everyone who was still in. It was frightening, but necessary.

Ah, I guess I'm just an asshole sometimes.

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Want to hear something funny ?

by troubled mind in

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my husband just won the city wide holiday light display for christmas i am so proud .

just a few short years ago i was the one that put a strand of white lights around the porch railing ,and a couple of lighted deer in the yard ....that brought the elders around real quick (after three years of silence ) at that time my husband was still holding onto the notion his faith was not bond to a cult .

it didn't take long after the 'loving sheparding call' for him to see things in another light.

Hortensia

Very pretty -- tell him I'm impressed!

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Court Bars Kids From Jehovah's Witness Activities

by Bangalore in

court bars kids from jehovah's witness activities.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/64209712/court-bars-kids-from-jehovahs-witness-activitieshttp://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11375208bangalore.

Hortensia

That's pretty interesting. I'm glad he wants to "dilute" their exposure to the wt crap. However, JWs can be devious and the poor kids are brainwashed already.

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life after the wtbts

by Hortensia in

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friends

you can't move forward to a new, more interesting, possibly much happier life, if you're still looking behind at the former life.. there is so much obsession on here about what the wtbts is doing, and discussing all the forms of injustice and bullshit in the wtbts, or how to bring down the wtbts.

yes, their doctrines are crazy and they are a cult and cruel to boot.

move on.

Hortensia

You can't move forward to a new, more interesting, possibly much happier life, if you're still looking behind at the former life.

There is so much obsession on here about what the wtbts is doing, and discussing all the forms of injustice and bullshit in the wtbts, or how to bring down the wtbts. Yes, their doctrines are crazy and they are a cult and cruel to boot. Move on. Learn some new stuff, stuff that is true and useful and interesting. Get some new friends. Get out in the world and experience what it has to offer. If you haven't already, start making plans for the future. Not just retirement. How are you going to really get the most from being alive? Certainly not by clinging with all your might to the past. Maybe you'll have to take that trip forward alone, without your friends or family. I understand the pain of that. But living inauthentically is also painful and a sad waste of a short life.

OK, opinion expressed. Feel free to disagree, call me names, whatever. I'm speaking from the advantage of 33 years out of the wtbts, and years of observing what ex-JWs do in their lives. You aren't really an EX-jw if you're still obsessed with their world.

Sharing my opinion is meant kindly, however you may take it.

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What's up with pinterest?

by mynameislame in

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after trying to find the picture that blondie posted on the "whose kh has the blue square jw.org on it?

" i noticed this under every jw related pin:.

jw.org has the bible bible based study aids to read, watch, listen download in 300+ (sign included) languages.

Hortensia

It's mostly pointless. However, I do use it sometimes to quickly save a picture, pictures of hupa or yurok basket hats, for instance. I've saved quite a few to my pinterest page so I have them all in one place. A little more convenient sometimes than bookmarking a page. I save recipes there, too, that I want for future reference. But mostly, it's kind of dumb.

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Is is Muslim terrorist cafe seige Sydney...hundreds of hostages! looks bad.

by Witness 007 in

lindt chocalate cafe martin place in city people pressed against the glass with hands up...this will not end well..

Hortensia

I just went to abc.net.au -- watched a bit of the news. Seems there has been gunfire, and some injuries. The whole thing sounds terrible, the hostages must be absolutely terrified.

No point in being PC about this. It's an Iranian cleric of some sort, with a history of violence. It may offend some, but it doesn't change the fact that muslim extremists are behind much of the terrorism in the world.

I say muslim extremists, because I do believe that many ordinary muslim people are held hostage by fear of retaliation from extremists if they oppose them in any way.

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Party

by Hortensia in

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i'm giving a party next week -- sunday, december 14 at 1:00 p.m. reason for the party?

i got a huge turkey on sale and i need to cook it.

i'm making turkey and trimmings, neighbors are bringing whatever they want, mostly vegetarian stuff.

Hortensia

Millie, you've got the cutest avatar!

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Nephew going to bethel - seeking seed planting ideas

by azor in

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i have posted a handful of times so far.

i am seeking some ideas to plant some seeds with my nephew before he goes to patterson.. a little about me and the going away party where i will have an opportunity to plant these seeds.

i have a little freedom since i am the only relative that he is in communication with that spent some time at bethel.

Hortensia

Maybe just tell him Bethel can be tough sometimes and if he ever needs to talk he can count on you. Make sure he takes your email address with him to bethel.

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Party

by Hortensia in

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i'm giving a party next week -- sunday, december 14 at 1:00 p.m. reason for the party?

i got a huge turkey on sale and i need to cook it.

i'm making turkey and trimmings, neighbors are bringing whatever they want, mostly vegetarian stuff.

Hortensia

LisaRose, don't you love rain? We had 4.5 inches in one day last week, it was awesome. Fortunately all our rivers and lakes were low, so the runoff from the heavy rain didn't cause much flooding.

Had the party today. It was nice. 24 neighbors invited, 17 attended. Two were sick and couldn't attend and the others were out of town for the weekend. I had a visit from an ex-JW in Redding, so it was nice meeting him. He seemed to have had a good time, chatted with everyone, seemed to fit right in. I heard part of his story, but was busy too, cooking, etc., so didn't get to talk as much as we might have liked.

What I like about parties is seeing everyone enjoy the food, and watching them relax and start to chat and laugh. Everyone seemed to have a good time, lots of good conversations about all kinds of things, lots of laughing. I like watching the body language, how as they relax tension seems to leave, their bodies soften and they lean back in their chairs, the facial expression becomes more open and the eyes seem keener. All because the mashed potatoes were really good and they like the turkey and gravy.