those are all funny! don't you just love seeing a really funny bumper sticker? I saw one that said "I do what the voices in my wife's head tell me to do."
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I take my amusement where I can
by Hortensia inbumper stickers i saw today:.
sarcasm - just another great service i offer.. i'm not speeding, i'm qualifying!.
if you don't like how i drive, stay off the sidewalk!
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Imaginary Friends can help you get over divorce Apparently
by Crumpet inits been suggested to me by someone who clearly is not aware of my atheism that adopting an imaginary friend could help me find my purpose in life after a relationship breakup.
it annoys and perplexes me although i realise everyone has a right to their own opinion.. however my opinion is this:.
my husband hasnt left me - i've never had a husband and i certainly hope i never have that misfortune or get ill enough to suffer such poor judgement as restricting myself to the bed of one person for the rest of my life when i personally am certainly not willing to keep such a promise.
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oh well, you know honey, it takes all kinds. You get to run your life, I get to run mine and that's the way it should be. No hate from this quarter.
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Blood transfusions, lying, and God's laws - an epiphany
by sir82 inwe all know about "theocratic war strategy" - it's not really lying, if the person you are speaking "isn't entitled to know the truth".
but, it suddenly struck me - this definition of lying, unique to jws (lying is not merely telling a known untruth, but telling such to one who doesn't deserve the truth) helps them justify the blood doctrine.
well, consider the extreme example cited in the old wts bold enough to actually name & describe "theocratic war strategy" - a country where jws are under ban.
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on one of these threads someone said something I had never thought of (I'm not a parent) but it seems so logical - it's not about blood and lying, but about blood and love. If a child's life could be saved by blood, a parent who really loved his child might decide to take the hit - make the decision that would save the child, sacrificing his own life to Jehovah's anger. Of course, if Jehovah were a loving god, he wouldn't want to seem one of his children lose everlasting life over legalistic mumbo-jumbo, he would feel the same - wanting to save his child's life rather than demanding obedience to a law that requires idolizing blood. In other words, the whole blood thing is just plain illogical and crazy.
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Imaginary Friends can help you get over divorce Apparently
by Crumpet inits been suggested to me by someone who clearly is not aware of my atheism that adopting an imaginary friend could help me find my purpose in life after a relationship breakup.
it annoys and perplexes me although i realise everyone has a right to their own opinion.. however my opinion is this:.
my husband hasnt left me - i've never had a husband and i certainly hope i never have that misfortune or get ill enough to suffer such poor judgement as restricting myself to the bed of one person for the rest of my life when i personally am certainly not willing to keep such a promise.
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Crumpet, you seem to serve as a lightning rod on this forum - I notice that people often respond to your posts with vehemence. If I understand you correctly, you are saying you don't care what other people believe, you just don't want to listen to it. That's how I feel, too. This forum focuses pretty narrowly on JWs, but I believe that all religions are dangerous, especially the three that arose in the middle east.
I enjoy reading your posts about your break-up with your former partner. I am going through a pretty yucky time myself, and getting a divorce because of it, so reading your frank expressions of your feelings has been very helpful to me.
well, maybe "enjoy" isn't the right word - I look forward to reading your posts because it helps me get through my own problems at the moment.
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I'm going to be disfellowshipped on Wednesday
by Thinking of Leaving inthe elders cames to my home on saturday and i didn't answer the door, so they told my sister to relay the message.
the message was "you know what it's about, we're going to make the announcement next meeting".
i knew it was coming...but it feels so weird.
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I expect your emotions will be all over the map for a while. You'll get through it and you'll be a happier person. I think the advice everyone has suggested is good, so I can't really offer anything more except to say that you ought to post your feelings and experiences on this forum. It can be quite helpful just to unload to people who understand what you are talking about. I've even made an ass of myself in several posts and still feel that everyone here is kind and compassionate.
As for the person at work, maybe being straight forward is the best way to go. Just tell the person you didn't want her to be taken by surprise, and that your feelings won't change and you plan to be professional at work, and the rest is up to her. If she gets difficult, you might speak to your supervisor. Religious discrimination or harassment is against the law.
Best wishes for you! Free at last!
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I never have done right by you...
by Sparkplug inin talking to my mom the other day (who is doing so well btw) she turned to me and said straight and as sane as can be, "i have never done right by you, don't do as i have done to you to you kids.
" she got teary eyed and i changed the subject fast because i did not know how to take it nor could i talk with the big lump in my throat.
i have known this my whole life, and i don't even speak it as plain as she has spoken it, but hearing out of her mouth as she sits in her wheelchair and knowing she means it from her heart and from pure love, well it messed me up a bit.
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Hortensia
my mother did something like that once. She said with tears in her eyes that she wasn't a good mother and she was sorry - she lost her own mother at a young age and didn't know how to be a mother. It was quite an admission for her - and I don't see any point in dwelling on the past, so I just told her everyone has a crummy childhood, and at least all of us (my two sisters and I) were grown up, in good health and earning a living. I think I probably responded like that because I hated how my mother loved to dredge up miserable moments from the past and relive them. God, once it's over, move on. Still, I recognized it as an important moment. She wasn't a good mother, but not for the reasons she was thinking about. And she did what she thought was best at the time. Anyway, what difference does it make? It's all over now and I am (sort of) in control of my own life.
before I get any emails about it, I have to say our childhood was about as awful as it can get, including physical, sexual, emotional and verbal abuse - but as I said, it's over a long time ago and I'd rather look forward. This is not a useful response to your question, I suppose, but if you want my opinion, tell your mother it's OK, you turned out all right anyway. Of course, I don't know the specifics of your childhood, so I could be way off base here!
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oh gosh, I just went back and saw the smiley. What a dope!!!
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Nvrgnbk - gosh I hope I spelled that right - I don't think there is a god. Whatever is going on in the universe, it doesn't seem to me that humans are central to it. Obviously there is a lot going on in the universe about which we know nothing, so maybe there is a god. Not going to worry about it. It seems obvious to me that any of the gods we learn about from religions are just reflections of the people who made up the religions - which is why a lot of it doesn't make any sense. So, basically I don't believe in god, but don't entirely rule out the possibility that something/someone is running the universe, although I find it unlikely.
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If the Watchtower ceased to exist right now, what would this mean for you?
by JH inwhat would it change in your life right now if the watchtower fell apart and didn't exist anymore?.
maybe some would want to join another realigion right away, because they still believed a bit of what they preached and didn't want to join a false religion, just as the jw's brand all other religions..... .
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nothing, nothing at all.
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No, I never loved nor could relate to Jehovah. In fact, it added to my guilt and depression that I couldn't even use the name in prayers - and found prayer in general very very difficult. It took a long time for me to realize I couldn't relate to Jehovah, because the truth is I don't believe he exists. I am a lot happier now that I just admit that - I don't believe there is a god, not any sort of god that humans have dreamed up in their own image. No god, in fact.