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  Thinking of becoming a Witness again and my reasons for doing so :(

  by reniaa in

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  i've been a faded jw for 10 years i left because of my failed first marriage, i'm no hypocrite and realised i had left completely so i embraced the world and dived in, only christmas and birthdays i could not get into, they were too foreign to me having never celebrated them, like if i suddenly tried to do ramadan or something like that.. 1/ all the criticisms of the people in the truth you say on here, i've found in the world, warts and all only in the world nothing holds them back from being utterly horrible to you.. 2/ i got stabbed by a worldly boyfriend, i got married 2 times of my own choosing to men outside the truth, the first smoked and was an alcoholic, the second gambled every penny we had and defrauded me out of money after we separated, 2 divorces later i am currently pregnant and a single mum since current boyfriend decided kids was to much of a responsibility and he needed his freedom and i was 'too selfish to expect him to give up his life'.. 3/ parents-in-law!

  i have been shunned by them as equal to anything you accuse witness families of and for the silliest of reasons, i had a disabled son and his grandparents said they wanted nothing to do with him because they didn't want to become attached in case he died.. 4/ i miss the honest friendships of the truth, i had friends of all ages from 14 to 80 years old and they genuinely cared for me, many trying to keep me in the faith a long time after i left but i was determined to fade so moved away completely, but i find friendships in the world so shallow in comparison and very hard to sustain :( i've never been a drinker and sometimes thats what friendship means you being a companion for them to goto pub with.. 5/ my recent boyfriend was in a christian religion, i thought why not find out about it, harvest churches if you ever heard of them, unfortunately it still hasn't stop him leaving me pregnant and alone and when i said to him how does he clear that with god, he replies "as long as i repent it doesn't matter" it's like he has a "get out of jail free card" for any wrong-doing in the bible, this is so alien to me and my witness trained conscience.. 6/ i recently out of frustration tried looking into atheism and joined their forums, it wasn't fun, they are as bombastic and arrogant as their religious counterparts can be from any religion, they make a religion out of not believing in god, it's very weird they talk of saving people from believing in god and offer nothing to replace it.

  they said to me "be happy you are in reality now and enjoy it" and i thought "well if this is reality i've had enough of it".

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  Jenlet

  "Witnesses definately aren't perfect"

  I hear this sort of thing from individual JWs a lot, as in "Well, they're the best of a bad lot". Understand that this is not the official position of the organization, though. The current party line is that the Jehovah's Witnesses have the "truth". God is using the organization to dispense "truth", even when it isn't true.

  Returning to the JWs involves more than just going back to the Kingdom Hall and making friends. It involves going door-to-door spreading "truth". How do you feel about telling "wordly" people that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 B.C., when it was not? How do you feel about telling "worldly" people that blood transfusions are forbidden by the bible, when they are not?

  Is it worth spreading lies in order to make friends?
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  Watchtower Comments (3.10.08 Be Guided) FEATURING DON CAMERON

  by V in

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  Jenlet

  Excellent comments, thanks a lot.
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  UN Argument

  by Outaservice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear brothers, .

  you might want to consider this letter in the 'questions from readers' section of the watchtower.

  my question is this: i would like to join the catholic church and at the same time keep my standing and position in the congregation!

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  Jenlet

  "The Society has learned from this."

  How so?

  What did they learn?
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  Marriage after Armageddon

  by nemail in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i've been a jw all my life and am thoroughly convinced this is the truth.

  but there is one thing that i just don't understand.

  many jw's believe that people who get resurrected in the new system will not get married.

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  "The point is that just because you make a mistake ... it doesn't mean that you don't have Jehovah's backing."

  I wonder how we can differentiate between religions, then, since they all make mistakes.

  Why is it that mistakes made by the Watchtower leadership are evidence of human fallibility, but mistakes made by other religions are evidence that Satan is using them?
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  Losch reveals newer new light at Australia Zone Visit

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay everybody, grab your barf bag because i just got a steaming shovel full of craptastic notes from gerrit's zone visit to the land down under !!.

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ read at your own risk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~puke.

  zone overseer was losch and his side kick was a big black guy, quite a scolar, cant remember his name though.

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  "Leaving babylon the great ... possibly geographical"

  I immediately pictured JWs worldwide boarding rafts and all floating to the east cost of the U.S., with their ultimate destination being Patterson, New York. The U.S. Coast Guard would no doubt fire on them, leading to a positive identification of the United States as the new King of the North.

  As time goes by, and more prophecies fail, the leadership gets more squirrely and desperate.
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  TV progams that must be not be viewed at all costs

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the elder giving the public talk a couple of weeks ago told the congregation that there are more and more.

  movies and tv programs, like charmed, or books and movies like harry potter that must be avoided at all costs.

  because they are a direct link to demonism and spiritism.

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  I remember one sister telling us that we should not watch the Superman movies, because:

  1) Children will be confused, since they will think that men can fly, and

  2) It's a form of idolatry and false worship, since Superman is taking on the role of Christ.

  Sometimes it was hard to check my laughter.
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  Issue Number 2.... Incorrect Predictions.

  by hotchocolate in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  okay, just to re-introduce myself, i was raised in the truth, regular pioneered for years, and am a member in good standing with my congregation.

  i have just recently been shocked to realise that i actually have some doubts about the truth.

  it helps for me to focus on one point at a time, and to write down my thoughts in a logical sequence.

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  Jenlet

  The only time the Watchtower Society disclaims being a prophet is when their predictions fail.

  The rest of the time they're a prophet.
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  We don't celebrate holidays because ........

  by RubaDub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just can't stomach the time wasted in meetings and in the literature about the jw stand on holidays.. we try to explain why we don't celebrate christmas, mothers day, halloween, thanksgiving day, etc, etc, etc.. yet in reality, other than the memorial and anniversaries, we don't celebrate anything, regardless of the origins of the holiday.

  if a new holiday was created encouraging people to be nice to each other, we still wouldn't celebrate it ... it would be worldly!!!.

  all the time and energy put into determining the origins of certains days is just a waste of time.

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  I think there are two main reasons that the leadership doesn't want the rank and file to celebrate holidays.

  1) JWs will end up spending time with "worldly relatives", and find out they're not as bad as the Watchtower Society makes them out to be.

  In addition, the "worldly" relatives could be a source of information about pedophile lawsuits, UN involvement, etceteras ...

  2) It takes time and money away from the organization. Why should JWs spend money on Christmas when they can put it in the contribution box?

  When these factors are mitigated by the WTS, the celebration is okay. A good example is wedding ceremonies, which are clearly pagan, but the WTS doesn't care since they have extensive rules in place to control the "celebration".
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  Need some advice

  by KICKED OUT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have not been on here in a long time but i have always valued the advice of everyone, so here goes.....i am dfd and my wife has never been a part of the org.

  we are getting ready to have our first child in may.

  my mother who is now living in patterson(at one of the motherships) speaks to me every 1 to 2 years.

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  Jenlet

  "I would tell her to go to hell."

  Me, too.

  I would tell her to Burn in Bethel.
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  What has happened to your human decency?

  by multifarious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am new here and i have been reading a lot of stuff on this board.

  my parent's are both jws, i am still active and still believe i have the truth.

  i consider myself a moral person.

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  Jenlet

  "I still say that there seems to be a lot of hate towards this religion, and yeah, I don't get it."

  You'll get it when you start asking questions.