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  God dammit!!! I hate this cult!

  by bluesbreaker59 in

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  so my girlfriend and i are getting very serious, and i've bought her engagement ring, should be done being built sometime in may.

  then at some point later, i'm going to ask her to marry me.

  she was with me and picked out her ring, so she knows its coming.

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  Jenlet

  "wife that's a hot piece of arse"

  It sure is nice to see this level of maturity in our spiritual "older men". Certainly helps us realize the extent that the Holy Spirit is involved in the selection of Jehovahs' Witness elders.
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  God dammit!!! I hate this cult!

  by bluesbreaker59 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my girlfriend and i are getting very serious, and i've bought her engagement ring, should be done being built sometime in may.

  then at some point later, i'm going to ask her to marry me.

  she was with me and picked out her ring, so she knows its coming.

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  Jenlet

  And all of them will ask, "Where is your dad?"

  Perhaps you could plan on saying something like, "Dad was invited, but he chose not to come because we don't agree about religion. Since I attend a different church than him he did not want to attend the wedding".

  If they ask for more information, I suppose you could offer to provide details later, after the wedding when the timing is better for talking about such things.

  As to the comments marked in red, don't let it get to you. Those comments serve a purpose; to remind us how desperately JWs want to transfer the responsiblity for their actions onto others.
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  Why Jehovah Witnesses teach a more biblical faith

  by tralon in

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  2. friends

  surprizeingly, i am not a jw but an observer and in partial agreement with the jehovah witnesses on many issues.

  i have been to many churches in my 30 years and have studied many church beliefs, church history and the bible as well.

  so why do i believe the jehovah witnesses are the one true faith of jehovah god?.

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  Jenlet

  "Surprizeingly, I am not a JW"

  Somehow, I doubt that, but regardless, keep on reading and posting. Using this site will help you progress to spiritual maturity.
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  JWs drink too much and the women are floozies

  by easyreader1970 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i posted this over at paradise cafe but i thought i would share it with you folks as well:

  we had the special two day assembly this past weekend.

  most of presentation was fairly tame.

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  Jenlet

  "Satan pioneered chat rooms"

  After Al Gore invented the Internet, I'm not surprised that Satan wanted a piece of the action.

  "One woman gave an experience that she had to sew all her own dresses "

  I am surprised that they allowed a sister to stand up and say that she sews clothes - sewing is a time consuming hobby. In the 80s in the congregation I attended, sewing was kind of a fad with the sisters, and I remember personally being counseled by an elder's wife about not spending time sewing. She told me that she buys all her clothes and that allows her to spend more time in field service.

  Thanks for your report.
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  FW: WHAT A SISITER SACRIFICED TO SERVE JEHOVAH

  by moomanchu in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  witnoid e-mails goin around.. all i can say is wtf.. japan assembly experience.

  date: tue, 22 jan 2008 15:58:51 -0500. .

  convention experience from japan!

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  Jenlet

  I'm pretty sure I've heard a version of this story, although it wasn't set in Japan. How kind of the author (editor?) to update the story to include a submissive Asian sister. That's always a nice touch.

  The half life of JW urban legends is longer than radioactive waste.
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  Poem from dub friend.

  by searchingforfriends in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i got this in an e-mail from a childhood friend that is still an active jw.

  i found it to be very upsetting and was wondering if anyone else gets the kind of e-mail forwards from friends/family that are still in?

  and how you handle it.

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  Jenlet

  Not to belabour the point too much, but I think it is worth repeating your friend's assumption back to her.

  Assumption

  The probability of marrying a man who

  - has a sexually transmitted disease

  - will not live up to his family responsibilities

  - will hurt and abuse his mate

  is lower if the man is a Jehovah's Witness compared to if the man is not a Jehovah's Witness.

  The question I have for your friend is this. What scientific evidence does she have that this assumption is true? I'm asking for statistics. Quotes from the Watchtower don't count. Gut feelings don't count.

  I think these gross generalizations come from a broader desire of individual JWs to somehow justify their religion, when they know it doesn't make sense doctrinally. As in, "Well, even it it's wrong, it's a good way to live, it keeps us safe". But does it really do that? Are they really better off as JWs? What do they really know about people who are not Jehovah's Witnesses?
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  Poem from dub friend.

  by searchingforfriends in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i got this in an e-mail from a childhood friend that is still an active jw.

  i found it to be very upsetting and was wondering if anyone else gets the kind of e-mail forwards from friends/family that are still in?

  and how you handle it.

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  Jenlet

  Well, to answer your question directly, no, I don't get these type of e-mail forwards, since I am very likely to respond to this type of trash and debunk it.

  As to how to handle it, I would suggest that you respond in a way that gets the sender thinking. Instead of an angry response, you might ask some questions, like:

  1) Why do you think the husband refused to find work after he lost his job? Is laziness a trait of "worldly" people or just bad people?

  2) Why do you think the husband was infected with HIV? Was this due to inappropriate sexual behavior, or was it from something else, like receiving a blood fraction in a medical setting? What would you think of a JW husband who infected his wife with HIV through some Watchtower approved means, such as the use of blood "clotting factors"?
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  What's wrong with the WTBS in a nushell.

  by JeffT in

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  i realized the other morning that it was twenty years ago that i started my exit.

  at the spring 1988 circuit assembly (i think it was in february or march) they absolutely hammered on the point that higher ed was a waste of time.

  armageddon was going to happen any day now and there was no point in preparing for life in system that was about to end.

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  Jenlet

  The Watchtower Society produces takers. People that aren't willing to do anything for themselves, because God is about to fix all their problems.

  If you had window washers in your congregation, you were lucky. In my congregation back in the 80s, the thing to do was Unemployment Insurance / Disability scams. My book study conducter was a good example. He had "inhaled some chemicals" in a previous job, which supposedly prevented him from working. The dole was enough to support his wife, two kids and a nice house.

  The Watchtower is bad for individuals and for society - that's what is wrong with it, in a nutshell. We can't all just sit around waiting for something to happen.
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  1914- What's the big deal if it's the wrong date?

  by cognac in

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  2. friends

  i hear it a lot on this board that the 607 date is wrong... i figured that out while i was a jw... never really thought much about it though.

  just thought, ok, if it's wrong then everything is moved up about 20 or so years.... and for that matter, why is it such a big deal to the society?

  why can't they just fix the date so it's right.

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  Jenlet

  Hi cognac,

  Getting back on track ... I think I understand your question "Why can't they just fix the date so it's right?" Your point is ... what difference does 20 years make?

  I side with those that said 1914 was a kind-of, sort-of successful prediction for the WTS. Okay, not really, when you consider what they really predicted would happen in 1914. But they did say "1914", and can once again use the excuse of having predicted 'the wrong things at the right time'.

  There have been so many changes to dates lately, they probably realize that dropping 1914 will make them look like complete idiots. They will no doubt have to drop 1914 eventually, to survive, but they need to wait awhile until some of the latest changes, such as the most recent generation change, have a chance to set in.

  One other thought - I've had some fundy evagelicals from similar churches tell me that 1934 is the correct date for the end of the Gentile Times. They accept the historical 587 date, and have a similar timeline otherwise, so they end up with 1934. They say the big 'hell breaks loose' event was when Hitler took power.
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  JW LOOPHOLE ON BLOOD IN PRINT!!

  by Burger Time in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  ok just read this article and didn't see it anywhere else.

  anyways in this article the liason committee gives permission for a "forced" transfusion.

  the article basically points out the loophole!!

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  Jenlet

  This article is very interesting.

  Thanks for posting the link.