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  Whatcha listening to?

  by bikerchic in

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  i've got pandora on my 'puter and it's so cool.

  i've got one of my stations named cake and they select songs in that venue and right now cake is playing "the distance".. love it!.

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  erandir

  Saw them live erandir. Amazing!

  Flippin' sweet!
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  New Here, just want to introduce myself....

  by lies all lies in

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  hi everyone, i never was baptized but studied for a very long time before i finally got my sanity back and realized that although the individual jws for the most part were good people and doing what they thought was right the org itself was total b.s.

  anyway ive been lurking here off and on for a while and figured i would stop being lazy and register.

  so hello, i enjoy everyones posts and hope to be around for a while!

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  Hurray for you to see it before you took the plunge. I wish so much now that I, too, had been smart like that.

  And, yes, there are so many good people there. It is so sad.

  Welcome!
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  Were your prayers ever answered while being a JW

  by Grouper in

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  did any of your prayers ever get answered while being a jw even if they where small maybe insignificant?

  pesonnally i never really needed my prayers to be answered but one time while the co visited us i was going to work with him durining saturady service i get there at 0930 but service started at 0900. i felt i missed my chance to work with him and show i was commited and i wanted to asked him how i can reconcile the fact i did not believe that noah's flood existed globally with the way the society views it.

  i left the kingdom hall pissed off thinking i fu*ked things up, so i kinda said to jah well i messed up gettin some clarity to to my quandry.

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  No, but I do remember one particular prayer being answered at a bowling alley long before I was a dub. I was with my church's youth group and hadn't bowled a strike yet. This was maybe my second time ever bowling, and I was really bad at it. The youth pastor had us all huddle in a group and said a prayer to give me a strike. (I know, how insignificant and frivelous was that?) Then my turn came up, and I did make a strike on that turn and the next. Honest. That was really weird.

  From an objective point of view, I'd have to say that it is more power-of-suggestion/positive-thinking than some angel directing my hand as I participate in some pointless game. Coincidence? Beginner's luck? Maybe I just focused more because I felt the pressure was on after that embarassingly loud group prayer in front of all the customers?

  Maybe when I die and get resurrected or go to heaven or wake up in whatever afterlife awaits, they'll replay my life and point to that occasion and tell me what was really happening then. Until then, who knows?
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  Whatcha listening to?

  by bikerchic in

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  i've got pandora on my 'puter and it's so cool.

  i've got one of my stations named cake and they select songs in that venue and right now cake is playing "the distance".. love it!.

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  aw yeah...Keane is awesome. When I first heard them on (I think) SNL, I fell in love with their sound.
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  Transcript from DC audio: "The Superiority of Being Taught By Jehovah"

  by LiveLife in

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  almost entirely transcribed from the audio provided by fading away (thanks, fading away!!).

  i couldn't bear to type out all of one experience, you'll have to listen.. the audio link: education talk from follow the christ dc.

  the superiority of of being taught by jehovah.

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  erandir

  Thanks for this transcript. I am sure it took considerable effort to do this.

  GrrrrrrI hate it when they dis a good education!

  So the brother picked a very irresponsible sister for the interview, I see. She may have finished a 4-year degree, which is a notable achievement in itself, but she obviously didn't choose a realistic major that would give her "a real job." It looks like she didn't do her research into what kind of job she could expect from such a field as that until it was too late. Sounds like she got a bit lazy at the end of it and just settled on the too-much-time/financial excuses. It also appears she went for the partying. So, this is a very discouraging talk for those responsible people in the audience who may be looking at how to prepare for a successful future. They are using her example and suggesting to the several thousand in attendance that the default college experience will be just like that...overall financial failure, immoral situations, and waste of time.

  So after that disappointing career choice and after her "immoral" (from a JW-standpoint) times in college, she settled for the JW faith which takes in depressed, self-loathing, self-conscious ones and makes them feel good about themselves by telling them they are special for believing the "truth." And now she is in a good enough standing to be used in an interview at a convention. I bet she feels so top-of-the-world right about now.

  What a crazy, mixed up world they live in.
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  Whatcha listening to?

  by bikerchic in

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  i've got pandora on my 'puter and it's so cool.

  i've got one of my stations named cake and they select songs in that venue and right now cake is playing "the distance".. love it!.

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  erandir

  Got iTunes on listening to Dashboard Confessional, atm...albeit low-volume cuz the wife is asleep :)
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  Jws act like they don't remember their past teachings

  by Blindbutnowisee in

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  two jws came knocking to my door.

  instead of ingnoring the knock, i decided to answer.

  with fixed smiles on their faces, one of the ladys offer me a flyer concerning the district convention.

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  erandir

  Those that left have an easier time remembering the snapshots because we know we weren't always at war with Eurasia...

  Mysterious, I love that book. It reminded me of so many aspects of the organization. Maybe the J-dubs should change their name to Big Brother's Witnesses.

  About the not remembering their past teachings, some of the newer ones like my wife and I refused to acknowledge the real truth. We were surrounded by "friends" who kept up that song that the "Society" never endorsed 1975 and that it was due to a few independently minded brothers. I finally broke free from that, did my own research, saw it for myself, and believed that, yes, prior to 1975, the publications pointed very clearly to 1975 as the year of the end. My wife still doesn't want to acknowledge it for various reasons, one of which is that she doesn't want to lose her friends. The difference between us is that I no longer attend meetings, but she still does. She's still surrounded by the propaganda and the control.

  Likewise, those two women at the door obviously didn't know what they were talking about, or if they did, just glossed over it because they are afraid of standing for the real truth and being expelled from their comfortable social circle.
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  New Seven Wonders

  by Pubsinger in

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  has anyone voted?.

  http://www.new7wonders.com/.

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  erandir

  Yep...learned about this after visiting Chichén Itzá last month.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/14/136316/2430029/post.ashx#2430029

  And that's the first one I voted for.

  Now I'm waiting for 07/07/07 to see which ones won.
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  Moon Landings - Real or Fake?

  by Black Man in

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  i've always wondered about this, especially recently.

  i've always contended that they were real and ignored the conspiracy theories.

  but if they were real, why hasn't nasa been able to send a man to the moon since the 1970s?

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  erandir

  darthfrosty:

  and who took all of the pictures of them landing and taking off from the moon?

  The space craft they used had a luner lander module while the orbiter stayed in lunar orbit. The pictures of the Eagle's landing and take off could have been taken from the orbiter or from the lander depending on what view they wanted. Two astronauts were in the lander while the third stayed in orbit (that must have sucked for him).

  Here's a brief summary from Wikipedia. (I know wikipedia isn't entirely credible, but it gives you the basic info so you know what to search for to verify it.)

  The first manned moon landing on Earth's Moon was the United States' Apollo 11 mission, commanded by Neil Armstrong accompanied by Edwin 'Buzz' Aldrin. While fellow crew member Michael Collins piloted the command moduleColumbia, Armstrong landed the lunar moduleEagle on the surface of the Moon at 4:17:42 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, July 20, 1969. After spending a day on the surface of the Moon, Apollo 11 splashed down in the Pacific Ocean three days later and so became the first Moon landing to complete a round trip back to Earth. A total of six such manned moon landings were carried out between 1969 and 1972.

  Any flat-earth believers out there, too?
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  Who here believes in Creation, yet believes in the Fossil records??

  by Lady Liberty in

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  good morning and "happy sunday everyone!!.

  yesterday our family (grandparents, grandkids, aunts, uncles) all went for a two hour drive for a picnic and all day fossil dig.

  (sorry, i cannot tell you where, as it would probably reviel who i am to the trolls on this forum.

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  I like Mark Twain's version of creation and the fossil record. In the Diary of Adam or the Diary of Eve (don't remember which one, or the exact title), Adam and Eve and the kids make fossils and bury them on mountain tops as a practical joke for future generations.