Tyrone: The State now gives him money to get his needs satisfied twice a month.Tyrone, are sure this mentally challenged person was not a woman? Twice a month?????
I did it now....he he he he he....oompa
Oompa, you mean a married woman, don't you?
erandir
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should prostitution be legalized?
by John Doe inthink of all the unprotected prostitutes in the world.
if their profession were legalized, they might have access to retirement plans, medical insurance, regular health exams that would protect not only the girl but the client also.
courts and society have traditionally held the body as something sacred that should not be sold, but are people not selling their bodies when they make pornos or pose for pictures or make movies or any such things?
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I did it for two hours last night....
by AK - Jeff inattended another church service.
i enjoyed the modern music at the beginning of it.
the 'sermon' or message was a discussion of leviticus chapter 3. i found it interesting, but not particularly inspiring.
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I grew up in a "Pentecostal" church. What you describe seems to fit my old church except they believed that hell was a literal lake of fire designed to torment the wicked for eternity. Oh, and tithing...you had to be a good tither or else you wouldn't receive much help from God. lol...you could always tell when the pastor was strapped for cash because he made tithing the subject of the sermon.
I got that same ole' feeling - though he didn't say the words, that, 'We have the Truth. No one else has it right that disagrees with us. As long as the mainstream churches accept our view of Jesus at least, and his divinity, they might might make it through too. But mostly, we have the Truth."
Yep, they tend to use that scripture about narrow is the road that leads to everlasting life, and that Jesus is the only way to salvation. They are totally anti-interfaith.
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student questioning Kerry about skull and bones gets tazered
by ninja inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se76lqwt6qa copy and paste
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erandir
yeah...the cops had the freedom to tazer the kid...the kid was free to be tazered. I don't see a problem.
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Who else is tired of the Just Get Over It threads?
by sass_my_frass ini have started this thread so that every time i see a new one i can point out how old that idea is.
congratulations.
it's great that you have obviously been able to get out without being harmed in some way - really, i'm happy for you.
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I've been on here for almost 5 years and the topics are all very repetitive but that's the nature of the beast.
Hey, if we could stomach the repetitive meetings all those years, we can certainly stand some repetitive therapy on this forum!
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How bad can it get?
by TooBad TooSad inat the watchtower study sunday a comment was made that "we must stop focusing our efforts and energies.
on this old dying system and focus our energies on life in paradise so near at hand.
were many nodding heads in full agreement with this tid bit of insanity.
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the rev. book is starting to really bother me and I only want to climax with you dear
That is one sweet line, oompa...I gots ta try that on my wife.
"bye honey, have a good meeting."....hell yes part of me is sad when she goes, but she is going less!
I know what you mean. I'm having the same effect on my wife.
TBTS, I feel for ya. I stopped field service because I could not bring myself to give my endorsement to the society's teachings (they claim they are God's teachings and not man's, but who are they fooling with that one?) and try to recruit people to come to my hall. It's a disgusting prospect.
Too many times have doctrines changed (call it bullshit, call it new light, same thing) and people have left the organization. The remainders just shrug and have a pity party with themselves that there were so many "weak" ones who left and that they "must not have really had the truth."
But then they keep ya hooked with the shunning policy that threatens to effectively kill off your family and friends network.
I try to take comfort in the thought that if God exists, and if he is truly just, that eventually the head honchos in the watchtower society and in all the manmade religions of the world will get what is coming to them for all the pain and suffering they've caused to those of us who want to live an honest life and be good people.
Hang in there, TBTS!
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anyone writing about Dave Madzay obviously never new him!!!!!!!!!!!!
by donna4174 ini am writing because i am tired of people talking about rumours that they heard about dave madzay,he was the kindest , most intelligent man i ever new, yes he was df but only jehovah can judge him for things he did, no one else.he was an elder very high up in bethel who gave the most wonderful talks, helped many people,brought a lot of people into the truth and yet when he died not one jw attended his funeral.
how sad that a man who was so high up in bethel could be treated like this...........i was brought up in the truth until i was 15 , and turned away because of how dave was treated, even though dave had jehovah in his heart right up until his last breath and did everything he could do to be reinstated but sadly never was.........................i know i knew him
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Did he have anything to do with the Madzay publishing company that made witness-oriented products like bookmarks, day planners, posters, bible/songbook binding, field service bags, etc. ? www.madzay.com
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My wife's take on the Sept OKM Question Box part
by erandir inwell, i asked my wife about the meeting she went to on thursday and how the question box part went.
the good news, for me, is that she agrees with me that the fds is obviously trying to clamp down on independent thinking and is being very contradictory.
she said she had in mind during the meeting the scripture about "where 2 or more are gathered in my name, there i am also" and also the scripture about the boreans.
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Here's another scripture my wife was keeping in mind during that part on the meeting.
Gal. 1:8 "However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond what we declared to you as good news, let him be accursed."
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My wife's take on the Sept OKM Question Box part
by erandir inwell, i asked my wife about the meeting she went to on thursday and how the question box part went.
the good news, for me, is that she agrees with me that the fds is obviously trying to clamp down on independent thinking and is being very contradictory.
she said she had in mind during the meeting the scripture about "where 2 or more are gathered in my name, there i am also" and also the scripture about the boreans.
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erandir
The problem is, the first elder was right. This amounts to a prohibition, and that's how it will go down.
The vast majority will see it as such and just blindly follow along, true. But this won't affect the ones who already have a good habit of examining every uttered expression (paraphrasing a scripture) instilled in them. They will argue that the society didn't say they prohibited anything, and they'll be right. No elder can do anything against such a one. All the elder would have is the weak argument that the society discourages independent study from extra-societal publications.
The wife of an elder in my congregation has a good attitude towards all this. She says that she is not going to trust her relationship with Jehovah to anyone else but herself. She doesn't accept things she hears from the platform or from the publications without first looking things up for herself and reasoning on them. For example, she questions how the FDS can write of the new information in a recent watchtower study that Judas Iscariot definitely won't be resurrected. She calls that speculation on their part and that there is no way they can know that for sure. No one can do a thing against her for that view, either. (Although I bet my "super-elder" is keeping a fixed eye on her.)
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My wife's take on the Sept OKM Question Box part
by erandir inwell, i asked my wife about the meeting she went to on thursday and how the question box part went.
the good news, for me, is that she agrees with me that the fds is obviously trying to clamp down on independent thinking and is being very contradictory.
she said she had in mind during the meeting the scripture about "where 2 or more are gathered in my name, there i am also" and also the scripture about the boreans.
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Don't be surprised if the company-loyal elder calls the C.O. and tattles on the other.
Naw...they are in the same family. I know these two and the "super-elder" won't do a thing about it. They have too much dirt on each other, for one thing. The thinking brother's parents are well-respected bethelites who have a habit of tempering stupid comments like that of the super-elder. He does the same and no one ever says a thing. In fact, he's well-respected for it by the other elders and PO.
Actually, I don't care to see the kind of "balance" you saw in the thinking elder. They
aren't going to free people from the bondage of the doctrine, so I prefer the ridiculous
ones with blinders on.That's certainly your opinion, your choice. I prefer the ones with balance because if any reform is going to take place in the organization, it's going to start with ones like these. And yes, they are working in their own way to free people from following blindly without thinking. Without his irreverant example and that of others like him, I probably wouldn't have broken away so easily. As for balance (not too conservative, not too liberal) being a good thing for change, I already know of 2 congregations where the majority of brothers in charge have a good balance and aren't all ultra-conservative. I have yet to hear from my friends in one of those congregations as to what they think of this article and how the part was done in their hall.
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What "Unwritten Rules" Did Your Congregation Have?
by minimus ini knew of a hall that allowed only white shirted speakers on the platform for sunday public talks!
when a visiting speaker did not wear the official white shirt he was either told that he couldn't give the talk or he could change shirts,as the hall kept a variety of sizes, just in case of an emergency!!!
i don't make this up.
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If there were any questions as to what was appropriate, look at the examples in the pictures found in the watchtower and awake.
I wanted to dress up like one of the old testament characters in a study article, beard, robe and all, just to be able to say I'm dressing like the brothers in the pictures.