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  11-yr old wants to get baptized, father objects, elders interfere

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  2. beliefs

  the mother went to the elders when the dad objected to the girl getting baptized.

  this prompted a visit from the elders who counselled him for wanting to hold his child back from baptism.

  this girl is immature even for an 11-year old.

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  erandir

  Good for him! I plan to do just that when my son gets to be of age. I want to make sure he knows exactly what he is getting into before he becomes part of any religion. My wife may or may not object...we've had this conversation recently. It'll be kind of like buying a new car. Wait a year or two, and if you still really want the thing, then go for it. If he still chooses to get baptised, I will not like it, but I won't stand in his way. Oh...and if the elders try to interfere, they will be shown the door. It is not their decision to make.
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  Questions Asked of Candidates for JW Baptism....

  by almostbitten in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as a non-witness, i've heard that potential candidates for baptism have to answer a series of questions.

  1. what are some of these questions?

  2. is this an actual form or are these questions oral (be nice!)?

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  erandir

  Well...I see that since they went to the new Organized to Accomplish God's Will book, they changed part 2 question 20 and no longer mention Betel nut as a defilement of the flesh to avoid. Darn. Well...it was fun while it lasted.
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  How Did You Feel During Memorial?

  by almostbitten in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sure this topic has been mulled over already, but indulge me and other newbies to this site.

  how did you feel when memorial took place and you didn't/couldn't really partake in it?

  and what happended to the wine and bread afterwards if no one ate or drank?

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  erandir

  Memorial? What Memorial?

  Ooooohhhh...the one I didn't attend for the second year in a row. And, boy, did that feel great not going!

  So I guess I felt great during Memorial.
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  Purple Triangle

  by Wordly Andre in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was watching a documentry last week and it was about concentration camps, i was not paying much attention because i was on my computer at the same time, however they were talking about the different badges of shame that were put on the prisoners shirts.

  when they got to the purple triangle it was said that, that meant the prisoner was a religious fanatics, now growing up the jw's always said that the purple triangle was for jw's, i am not saying they were not in the camps but, there were other religous groups that the members were taken by the nazi's because of their religious beliefs not just the jw's.

  not too long ago i was talking to a jw about this same topic, he said the purple triangle was only for jw's and went on about the abuse and killings suffered because the nazi's targeted jw's.

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  erandir

  Or, Andre, about .000233 or .023% by my calculator?

  Talk about a self-absorbed organization.

  This reminds me of the Stewart character from MadTV:

  "Hey, everybody! Look what I can do!"
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  Name Certain Things JWs Can't Do

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's one thing to start off our list: jws can't stand for the country's national anthem (but they can rise for the flag salute).

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  erandir

  I know of elders that threatened judicial action for French kissing. They made it known that even MARRIED couples were banned from this "loose conduct"!!!

  Out of all the ones I've read, this is the most shocking to me. And I've done most of the things listed in this topic, too.

  The above is just one more reason why I don't want to be part of this crazy religion.

  OK...here's one:

  They can't date or marry outside their religion, but they also can't use the convention or assemblies to look for future spouses. It's no wonder the small town congregation I used to attend is 90% inbred.
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  My Huge Phobia of flying!! Damn the Wright Brothers!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was supposed to fly tommorrow but i put off booking the tickets....and now i've chickened out and will take an 11 hour train ride all night...compared to 1 hour flight.

  i have butterflys in my stomach and i can't relax.

  i don't trust airplanes or pilots!

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  erandir

  I'm from the Dayton, Ohio, area, and therefore, I have to defend the Wright Brothers since they are associated with this city as well. :)

  Yeah...I certainly know where you are coming from with this flying phobia thing. My own flying anxiety has been getting worse with each flight I take. I just hate that feeling of being 6 miles up in the sky in a tube of aluminum that is probably older than I am. It gives me chills just thinking about it. Yet it is supposed to be safer than the daily commute by car that I make to work and back.
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  The contagion is spreading - lots of people quietly leaving JWs

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from reading reports on jwd it seems that many are in the process of quietly leaving the watchtower organization.. it's almost become disease like - and spreading rapidly, even acutely in lands where access to information is greater.. people who i've known for years have suddenly disappeared - it reads like a stephen king novel.. what have you noticed?.

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  erandir

  I wish it were that easy. It would be worth a visit to the hall to infect them.
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  The Friends Ain't So Friendly

  by StAnn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been thinking.

  a lot of posts i read here say things about how the jws are all victims; how people feel so sorry for them; how people believe that the jws they know are really good people who are trapped in a lie.

  then i read a lot of other posts about the cruel things the jws do, like shunning, ignoring df'd people on the side of the road with a flat tire, refusing to be charitable to their fellow humans, delighting at the impending deaths of millions of people, and blaming all of their coldness and heartlessness on the fact that they're just following orders from the gb.

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  erandir

  To StAnn and Jamie,

  Hello fellow Ohioans! I hail from Western Ohio (near Dayton).

  Now...back to the topic:

  My on topic post has to do with group mentality. They shun as a group, and they agree to look down on "worldly" people. As individuals, things vary widely from person to person, once you get them alone. I know a lot of genuine, albeit mislead, friends and also a fair share of hypocrits who are just in it for status or power or being the center of attention. So, if I must make a generalization here, witnesses aren't very different from other groups of people.
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  Why JW's don't vote. (found on msn.com)

  by Mulan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.slate.com/id/2194321/&gt1=39001.

  just turned on my internet, and this was on the front page..

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  erandir

  If they get away with their posing half naked, and wrapping themselves in flags, playing in a highly competetive sport, and being generally bad examples for witnesses, I wouldn't be surprised if that is a factor of how big their financial contributions to the WT are. Shucks...I know it's speculation, but so what. :)
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  The contagion is spreading - lots of people quietly leaving JWs

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from reading reports on jwd it seems that many are in the process of quietly leaving the watchtower organization.. it's almost become disease like - and spreading rapidly, even acutely in lands where access to information is greater.. people who i've known for years have suddenly disappeared - it reads like a stephen king novel.. what have you noticed?.

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  erandir

  Yay...I'm infected, too! I don't want to be cured. I've left, and I'm staying out!!!