even tho some of you will think i'm making this up- i'm not!-.
walking next to the river, thinking & praying on these matters, i compared the spirit displayed here and on other boards, and realized it is heightening my bond and respect for my brotherhood!
also, i started playing 'what if' with what i have always considered some of our 'goofy speculation of prophecy' - such as the small, little better than a church group, band of what eventually became the first jws released from prison in 1919...what if - as ridiuculous as it sounds- it was true!.
Well you just TEMPTED me back; where can one FIND these transcripts?
Since none of us were alive at that time, all I trust is the RESULTS of the movements start- even IF Rutherford was corrupt in some way; after all- look at the Kings of Israel, Judas, and the False Brothers in the Early Christian Congregations- there will ALWAYS be pretenders...till the Appointed Time!
Agape!
even tho some of you will think i'm making this up- i'm not!-.
walking next to the river, thinking & praying on these matters, i compared the spirit displayed here and on other boards, and realized it is heightening my bond and respect for my brotherhood!
also, i started playing 'what if' with what i have always considered some of our 'goofy speculation of prophecy' - such as the small, little better than a church group, band of what eventually became the first jws released from prison in 1919...what if - as ridiuculous as it sounds- it was true!.
Even tho some of you will think I'm making this up- I'm NOT!-
Walking next to the river, thinking & praying on these matters, I compared the spirit displayed here and on other Boards, and realized it is heightening my bond and respect for my Brotherhood! Also, I started playing 'What If' with what I have always considered some of our 'goofy speculation of prophecy' - such as the small, little better than a church group, band of what eventually became the first JWS released from prison in 1919...What IF - as ridiuculous as it sounds- it was true!
I snorted. Then realized it always started that way; a very small handfull of individuals that knew little of God, but were chosen because of their hearts; Abraham, Moses, the Apostles- are the main examples. And they had MANY faults, made many mistakes.
Now, this small group breaks away from Church Dogmas (still having some of them, and some of their own ideas) and are released from prison (Church persecution) in 1919. Could it be that the Spirit chooses them to put in motion that which results in the preaching of the Good News of God's Kingdom (and reveal the deception of the God-Dishonoring dogma of Hellfire, etc) thruout the World? (Christ & Daniel foretold it WOULD be done in the Last Days...)
After seeing the Hateful and obscene pretense at Faith by many- I am now starting to think FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME that it just might be true!
So- thank you ALL; I have learned MUCH here! Since the Moderators can't take any POSITIVE views of us JWs, they have continually banned me- so I grow tired of the game! Been fun!
Agape,
the Mad JW
being brought up as a jw in the 70's +++ it was instilled in me that my hope was for everlasting life in a perfect world.
only 144,000 were going to heaven to rule with jesus.
my heart was shaped by a very traumatic event 3 yrs ago this labor day.
Do we sense a completely phony testemonial? Yessssssssssssss we do! Praise the Lord!
a preview of what's coming in january is on this link, it sounds scary to me!!!!
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http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/.
Where is the stuff about the GB/Watchtower Society and the UN?
a preview of what's coming in january is on this link, it sounds scary to me!!!!
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http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/.
Jourles writes:
Ah shucks! Where is the Sex Witch? And what's up with them leaving off that earlier subliminal image I posted from their website?
btw, the site loads very slowly....zzzzz
Click 5.
Click the phone.
Click the phone again.
a preview of what's coming in january is on this link, it sounds scary to me!!!!
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http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/.
any updates?
a preview of what's coming in january is on this link, it sounds scary to me!!!!
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http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/.
http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/
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a preview of what's coming in january is on this link, it sounds scary to me!!!!
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http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/.
http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/
What gives? Its already the 26th, and its still asking for a username and password to access the website!!??
a preview of what's coming in january is on this link, it sounds scary to me!!!!
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http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/.
Finally the release date has arrived :) Time to checkout the website.
i decided to take the advice of some of you here when i wrote about my situation.. i am married, but my wife is a die hard witness.
despite me showing her mountains of evidence and her actually accepting it, she is regressing back into jw think.. this has happened since i stopped mentioning anything anti-jw.. now she thinks that my problems with jw's were just a phase because i am not bringing up the issue anymore.. i really want to leave this religion, but i can't do that without losing her.. many here i know are trapped and some are still serving as elders.
i don't know how you do it, but i guess routine is routine.
Dear truthseeker,
I would recommend sitting down with your wife and having a deep Bible study regularly and learning about what the Bible has to say about things, not what the WT and GB have to say about things. I'm sure you will quickly see what the Bible says and what the WT says are two different things.
A good place to start would be a study on Jesus, who was he? Who did he say he was? Who do the WT say Jesus was? Have a read of this webpage for ideas:
http://www.freeminds.org/history/whathapp.htm
A Different Jesus
When I began to study the identity of Jesus Christ and the things he said about himself, and the things his disciples said about him, it soon became obvious that I had been misled by the false doctrines of the Watchtower. Jesus voluntarily placed himself in subjection to the Father, and he was bound with the limitations of men; but he was also God (John 1:1). Pick up the Watchtower's Kingdom Interlinear Translation and look up these verses in the original Greek literal rendering:
* His disciples recognized him as God (Jn 1:1, 5:18, 20:28, Rom. 9:5, 1 Jn 5:20, Col. 1:19, 2:9)
* The angels worshiped him as God (Heb. 1:6-12)
* Jesus and the Father are both the Alpha and Omega (Rev.1:8, 22:13)
These and many other proofs were not easy to accept, having been taught that Jesus is an archangel and merely one of God's creations. Fully understanding the nature of God is beyond human reasoning; just as we are unable to comprehend an infinite God with no beginning. We must listen to the whole Word of God to get an accurate picture, and not attempt to ignore or explain away the scriptures that refer to Jesus as Jehovah God, just because we cannot explain it in human terms.
As you start to notice the differences either pick up a KJV or find one on the Internet and begin to use it in your Bible studies. You won't learn about "God's active force" but rather you will learn about the Holy Ghost, "he shall teach you all things"(John 14:26) and "he will guide you into all truth"(John 16:13). The same Holy Ghost who descended from Heaven upon Jesus(Matthew 3:16, Mark 1:10, Luke 3:22, John 1:32) can dwell in the believer today(1 Corinthians 6:19-20, Acts 19:2-6) if you will be "baptized with the Holy Ghost"(Acts 11:15-16). The Holy Ghost is a part of the trinity(Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians 13:14, 1 Peter 1:11-12, 1 John 5:8, 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.[the Word is Jesus Christ as it states clearly in John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh"]). Look closer and you will notice subtle changes such as this verse as found in John 1:1:
King James Version
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
New World Translation
http://www.watchtower.org/bible/joh/chapter_001.htm
John 1:1 1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
The addition of "a"(made bold for emphasis) changes the verse completely(you will also notice the lowercase g). There are three warnings in the Bible where God warns not to add or subtract to his word:
Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
The last warning given in Revelation might be just referring to the Book of Revelation itself. There are a lot more changes in the NWT than just this, I'd recommend doing a google search using "New World Translation" as the search terms and doing an indepth study on this topic.
