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I finally Left!
by The Doc 58 ini would like to give the full details of my leaving the jw's, but i don't have a lot of time at this moment.
basically i was raised in the organization and it drove me pretty insane bacause my father was an elder, mother a pioneer, sister a bethelite, etc.
so, i did the whole thing for a long time.
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Hello, Newbie here
by disillusionedandscared ingoodevening all.
i am new here and thought i would introduce myself.
this is my official first post on this board.
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Long Time Lurker....Posting 1st time..Thank you....
by 1144 inolah.... .
this is my story if you care to read...thank you.....all make my long story short.
ive always been a beer drinking pot smoking fool...w/occasional trip or 10.. .
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JW exposed
by aquamarine inlet me start off by saying that i'm glad to know this support group and website is available.
i decided to dissocaite myself four years ago.
i actually emailed an author that wrote a book about her experience as jw and why she left.
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Very HIGH Snow Banks where I live
by JH inenjoy the pictures.
i took these this morning and its cold out too -15c.. .
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And remember, never eat yellow snow.
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Home Schooling
by WTWizard init seems that there are a lot of witlesses that opt to home school their children.
i had a family in my former congregation that did that, because the kids did not want to be around worldly people (sounds familiar?).
it also seems that they are speeding things up, so the children can get out there and pioneer that much sooner.
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Sorry about that
Rinmiredancing said:
“I have no interest in sending my children to school, not because of religion, but because I want my children to be able to think for themselves. “
Could this be why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system
The political motivations of the King of Prussia
Seeking to replace the controlling functions of the local aristocracy, the Prussian court attempted to instill social obedience in the citizens through indoctrination. Every individual had to become convinced, in the core of his being, that the King was just, his decisions always right, and the need for obedience paramount.
The schools imposed an official language to the prejudice of ethnic groups living in Prussia. The purpose of the system was to instill loyalty to the Crown and to train young men for the military and the bureaucracy. As the German philosopher Johann Gottlieb Fichte, a key influence on the system, said, "The schools must fashion the person, and fashion him in such a way that he simply cannot will otherwise than what you wish him to will."
Emulation of the Prussian education system in the United States
The Prussian system proved to be a success for that government’s purposes. By the late 1800’s men in the United States including Horace Mann, Barnis Sears, and Calvin Stove heard about the successes of the Prussian system. They traveled to Germany to investigate how the educational process worked. Upon their return to the United States they lobbied heavily to have the Prussian model adopted. Horace Mann was largely responsible for the introduction of compulsory public education, Prussian-style, in the United States.
There has got to be a balance between Home schooling ver Public schooling.
Because of what Lrkr said, “I have yet to see a home with a chemistry laboratory, gymnasium, running track, photography developing lab, pottery kiln, CADD station, or television studio (etc, etc, etc me added). But they are common place in public schools. A well meaning parent can't possibly compete with the resources of thousands of taxpayers.... and why should they??? Because all of the people at school are BAAAAADDD?????”’
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Home Schooling
by WTWizard init seems that there are a lot of witlesses that opt to home school their children.
i had a family in my former congregation that did that, because the kids did not want to be around worldly people (sounds familiar?).
it also seems that they are speeding things up, so the children can get out there and pioneer that much sooner.
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Leaping Lurkers Batman!
by byebyeborg ini have been visiting this forum since aug 07. i have hidden in the bushes and watched the goings on.
but now i leap from the bushes and tell all of you how much i have learned from watching you.
i have both learned and enjoyed.
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WTBTS refuses to return 100,000 pound donation from DF man
by dozy inwatchtower society declines to return disputed 100,000 legacyby emilie filou, third sector, 13 february 2008 .
the charitable arm of the jehovah's witnesses should return a 100,000 legacy from a man it expelled for trying to convert call girls, one of the man's relatives has said.. martin davis said the watchtower society should return the money left to it by his cousin donald kennett so it could go to kennett's nephew, who is autistic.. accepting money from a member who had been expelled would damage the charity's reputation, said davis, of dulwich, south london.. kennett was befriended by a jehovah's witness in the 80s when recovering from a serious car crash and joined shortly afterwards, davis told third sector.
he was 'disfellowshipped' from his group in stockport in 2001 after members discovered that he was contacting call girls.. when kennett's mother died in 1994, she had left half her estate to him and half to his autistic nephew.
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Me agrees with Metatron post # 4416.
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Joelbear69's words.
Just like to add.
Me has seen it with my own eyes over and over.
But as the laws of the lands stand there is little (at this point) any of us can do.
By the way. They will also count shunned person (that are not alive in their view) at the kingdom hall.
Me always bring this up (money from shunned ones and counting at kingdom hall) in discussions with WTBS personnel.
Watch their body language when you bring this subject to their attention. The brains go to work.
Me would like to encourage others to do the same, if you already haven't,
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