Ok, so he was a Jehovah's Witness because he refused a blood transfusion yet lived a life that's against all the commandments, how does that work? "Fringe Witnesses", have not heard that term in a while, the witnesses who bugged people to attend the Memorial would gossip bad things about them, so why bother asking them to join them during the "Lord's Evening Meal" if you've got nothing good to say?
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Fresno man facing murder charge after shooting a Jehovah’s Witness who refused blood transfusion
by Tenacious ina fresno man is facing murder charges in court this week for the shooting death of a jehovahs witness who later died after refusing a blood transfusion.. according to police, quevedo and silva argued over over gang membership with quevedo returning later in the evening to shoot silva through the security door at his home.. silva reportedly told a fresno police officer jehovah, jehovah, im dying, im dying, as he was taken to a hospital where he died during surgery after refusing a blood transfusion because he was a jehovahs witness.. it is the belief of many jehovahs witnesses that it is against gods will to have a blood transfusion.. according to defense attorney antonio alvarez, quevedo should not have been charged with murder because silva refused a transfusion that could have saved his life.. prosecutor gabriel brickey disagrees and will call fresno county pathologist michael chambliss to testify that, even if silva had received the transfusion, he would have died because one bullet hit a a major vein.. quevedo has already served time in prison for felony battery and theft and was on supervised release when he was arrested for shooting silva.. if convicted of murder he would face life in prison.. original story with suspect picture can be found here: fresno shooting.
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Christianity: The most deceptive religion
by opusdei1972 injesus was a jew who apparently thought he was the messiah, however, after dying, his disciples began to propagate the lie that he would return from heaven during his generation.
but, his generation passed away, and it was clear that it was a false prophecy, then a dishonest christian wrote the second letter of peter so as to condemn those who realised that the prophecy was a fiasco.
interestingly, and sadly, this religion survived,....why????
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PhilsWager2
"Village Idiot:The Christian religion is the most deceptive because it is hypocrite. It says "we have to love our enemies". On the other hand, Islam says: "we have to kill our enemies". It's more sincere"
Still waiting for facts to back up this claim and is there any way we can use accepted historians to prove "Rome enabled Xians to expand" prior to the first 300 years of the church? We need to find evidence unless all your doing is providing us with your opinion, if that's your opinion, nothing anyone say's is going to sway your personal experiences with bad people.
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19 and Counting Pedophile Church Coverup, their just like the Watchtower! "Real Time" Pedophile Scandal!"
by PhilsWager2 inhttp://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/21/people-duggar-family-speaks-after-josh-duggar-accused-molestation.
have you read about this freak who molested his family, the parents, church and a police officer covered up this scandal because of all the money!.
"posted may 21 2015 6:51 pm edt.
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Did any of you know guys who dated girls with wide age gaps before our world started to rethink it's position on consent? I was thinking about girls around my age (I was 13 years old at the time) who were dating 19 to 34 year old men, how come they never got in trouble for statuatory rape? Did our culture change from tolerating wild age spreads (I watched some Youtube Videos on 9 year old Brides in Islamic Culture begging for what many of us had, a childhood and the right to attend Middle and High School and perhaps college but they wont get this! The girls I listened to were speaking out against the violence, beating, killing of 9-11 year old child-brides getting married, why does the World tolerate this hate against women?) nothing like the Middle East I say yet I witnessed large age spreads without any judicial action taken against them. The video I watched showed several of those girls were either killed or committed suicide, what sick bastard gets off on baby girls or tweens? What's wrong with their sexuality, why can't kids be allowed to take time to grow up, we don't need babies having babies, is wrong!
How come girls in the Middle East don't have any rights, why are they treated by men as nothing more than a possession of object to deposit their sperm when their not beating the hell out of them? I fear we will move towards a more tolerance of Pedophiles as time moves forward, Middle East culture won't converge with Western, its divergent and many stay to themselves in groups where women are treated with contempt for thinking or wanting a life!
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19 and Counting Pedophile Church Coverup, their just like the Watchtower! "Real Time" Pedophile Scandal!"
by PhilsWager2 inhttp://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/21/people-duggar-family-speaks-after-josh-duggar-accused-molestation.
have you read about this freak who molested his family, the parents, church and a police officer covered up this scandal because of all the money!.
"posted may 21 2015 6:51 pm edt.
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Have you read about this freak who molested his family, the parents, church and a police officer covered up this scandal because of all the money!
"Posted May 21 2015 — 6:51 PM EDT
In an exclusive statement to People on Thursday, 19 Kids and Counting star Josh Duggar, his wife Anna, and his parents Jim Bob and Michelle are speaking out in response to reports that Josh was once accused of molesting five underage girls as a teen.
“Twelve years ago, as a young teenager, I acted inexcusably for which I am extremely sorry and deeply regret. I hurt others, including my family and close friends,” Josh, 27, says in the statement. “I confessed this to my parents who took several steps to help me address the situation. We spoke with the authorities where I confessed my wrongdoing, and my parents arranged for me and those affected by my actions to receive counseling. I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life.”
Josh has resigned from his position at the Family Research Council as a result of the accusations becoming public, but his family has stood behind him.
“Back 12 years ago our family went through one of the most difficult times of our lives,” Jim Bob, 49, and Michelle, 48, said in a joint statement. “When Josh was a young teenager, he made some very bad mistakes, and we were shocked. We had tried to teach him right from wrong. That dark and difficult time caused us to seek God like never before.”
“I would do anything to go back to those teen years and take different actions,” Josh added. “I sought forgiveness from those I had wronged and asked Christ to forgive me and come into my life. In my life today, I am so very thankful for God’s grace, mercy and redemption.”
A rep for TLC did not immediately respond to EW’s request for comment.
To read the full statement, head over to People.
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Governing Body's Money Issues, real or not? Author of Forest Gump got $0 after Hollywood used their accounting magic!
by PhilsWager2 inall the money coming inside the organization and goes through those magic donations boxes quilting the likes of sophie and caleb are filling up don't add up!
we know the watchtower does has downsized their spending deeply but where is the money going?
actually you don't need that money to disappear what you need is "hollywood accounting", look what happened to the author of forest gump, he was promised 10% of the net.
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All the money coming inside the Organization and goes through those magic donations boxes quilting the likes of Sophie and Caleb are filling up don't add up! We know the Watchtower does has downsized their spending deeply but where is the money going? Actually you don't need that money to disappear what you need is "Hollywood Accounting", look what happened to the author of Forest Gump, he was promised 10% of the Net. Hollywood's Accountants turned that blockbuster movie in to a capital loss by adding all types of fake expenses in to his equation. Would the Governing Body do something like that to their followers?
Think about all the money and properties sold authors of various JW Watch Dog groups follow, the sells of which they deny would cover the expenses of one month. I was under the impression they made lots of bank, so where did they hide all those "hundreds of millions"? Don't you think they lied about how much cash those building were sold for, hiding their gold up at Fort Warwick or Fort Fishkill's new vaults?
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17 year old son is blaming me for ruining his life from the Cult. He's complaining "I could have been a high school sports star!"
by PhilsWager2 inyou know about my not-so-ugly divorce and how me and my wife found out the religion is false.
she still attends while my 17 year old has been raging on me about all the wasted time he suffered from by being in this religion.
he think's his life is ruined, very angry we did not learn this was a cult earlier(he was 14 when he stopped attending after reading the revelation book, he said "in all time and history, how could a trumpet blown in revelation have anything to do with a jw bible student convention statement"?.
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Do any of you regret deeply as Peter mentioned not getting to join High School sports if you were allowed to even attend school? Peter did not say he deeply regret's not being on a High School sports team, we both have something in common, I was a great diver and could beat the fastest kid on the team. I have regrets, I went up against the number two weight class in Wrestling and pinned him in two minutes. Also without taking Roids, my bench was a legal 320 for the 168 weight class, another brother had the High School record and blew away everyone in the state by benching over 400lbs, the elders were pissed off!
I might be off a few things on my past "Glory Days, the'll pass you bye, Glory Days!" The Boss has a song so true, all the things we could have been or were. Watch "It's Always Sunny in Philly" High School Reunion and see if it reminds you have how shitty kids could be in high school!
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17 year old son is blaming me for ruining his life from the Cult. He's complaining "I could have been a high school sports star!"
by PhilsWager2 inyou know about my not-so-ugly divorce and how me and my wife found out the religion is false.
she still attends while my 17 year old has been raging on me about all the wasted time he suffered from by being in this religion.
he think's his life is ruined, very angry we did not learn this was a cult earlier(he was 14 when he stopped attending after reading the revelation book, he said "in all time and history, how could a trumpet blown in revelation have anything to do with a jw bible student convention statement"?.
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Thank you all! His biggest question that's really hard for me to answer is, why we arrived at the conclusion "this is not the Truth" because of physically bad actions vs researching truth? Asking he "Why did you allow the Watchtower society to keep your minds in prison?" is really hard to answer. The Watchtowers gave us chances, we had magazines, we heard talks during the Convention saying "Prove this is the truth again, that is how the weaker ones are getting re-activated! How come you did not prove it through intellectual means instead of letting them grind your emotions to dust?"
I appreciate everyone's insight, how would you explain his problem we don't come to this conclusion until they abused us emotionally, mentally and physically? Jokely said "Not everyone can be a genius like you, we had ideas placed in our brains as kids(he said, so did I but not as strong as yours) and some of those ideas like 1975 took a big piece of our lives that won't be returned." He see's how wicked the witnesses can be but there are good ones too, can't people see just a fractional amount of good or have the elders and their wicked wives destroyed his spiritual desire for life? He's said the COBE helped him see "It's obvious there is no God or that fat piece of trash would get smite!" These Elders don't see their stumbling kids at young ages and still their out in Field Service trying to get people inside the Ark before it's too late!I should thank the Elders and COBE for helping remove the Cult from his mind, instead I wish he will glance over all different views before coming to a final one. I wonder if the majority of us were brought here because of bad conduct instead of intellectually seeking proof the Watchtower was not from the Intelligent Being.
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17 year old son is blaming me for ruining his life from the Cult. He's complaining "I could have been a high school sports star!"
by PhilsWager2 inyou know about my not-so-ugly divorce and how me and my wife found out the religion is false.
she still attends while my 17 year old has been raging on me about all the wasted time he suffered from by being in this religion.
he think's his life is ruined, very angry we did not learn this was a cult earlier(he was 14 when he stopped attending after reading the revelation book, he said "in all time and history, how could a trumpet blown in revelation have anything to do with a jw bible student convention statement"?.
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You know about my not-so-ugly divorce and how me and my wife found out the religion is false. She still attends while my 17 year old has been raging on me about all the wasted time he suffered from by being in this religion. He think's his life is ruined, very angry we did not learn this was a Cult earlier(He was 14 when he stopped attending after reading the Revelation book, he said "In all time and history, how could a trumpet blown in Revelation have anything to do with a JW Bible Student convention statement"?
How do I explain he can get over the guilt, stop feeling sorry about wasting his years in this religion and move on with life? I am tired of hearing he wasted his time when there are people who are double, triple or six times his age when they learned this was a lie(14*6 84) brother in Ray Franz's book who was excommunicated at the ripe age of 93 years old What would you do i this case, I wish you and me were this young when we learned this was a joke!
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JW sighting while shopping
by Scully ini was out today at the grocery store, picking up a few things for the weekend, when just beyond the pineapples, i spotted a jw lady i was once friends with.. i wasn't interested in engaging in conversation, so i just continued picking out fruit, when out of the corner of my eye, i see her look at me and recognize me.
she looked like she was panicking, and then darted behind a pillar in the store, trying to hide from me!.
my dd was with me and noticed what happened.
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PhilsWager2
We’re Jehovah’s Witnesses
We speak out in ignorance
Ours is the god of False Prophecy
What he foretells fails to be
2. When we see a former Witness
standing at the store
frantically we scurry for the exit door
Talking, greetings are a No No
Shunning and cruelty is what we stand for
Chorus
Were Jehovah’s Witnesses
We afraid of what's in store
Ours is the god of False Prophecy
what he foretells fails to be
Other religions who help the poor
won't be welcome at our door
we shun anyone without a thought
Cuz Jesus is not what were about
Preach near and far or you gonna die
if your monthly field service card is low
3. Witnesses do not accept Grace
When works and rules can take its place
ect...
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Are J.W.'s as Gullible as the Org's Writings Imply?
by The Searcher inthe latest watchtower certainly indicates that the org thinks they are!!
why keep in expectation?
watchtower august 15 par.
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Search they don't even thoroughly read their literature and keep up with all the "new light", so how can they be gullible, the word implies the Witness took some time to read or think, very few even study to digest and synthesize all the writers ideas presented by the Watchtower. I think most are on cruise-control and don't think about religion like all of us here do, to be gullibility implies some acceptance of the doctrines, as many of you have proven, most JWs don't read and I have discovered don't want their own You-tube Channel JW.Org!