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I am So Angry

by GoddessRachel in

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i hate everything.

i am so angry at my mother, at my father, my sister, my brother.

nobody understands me.

Thanks for that Rachel and for starting this thread. I've had a couple of rotten days too but was trying to cope on my own. The anxiety was beginning to overwhelm me and I've been having difficulty catching my breath and swallowing the lump in my throat. There always seems to be a tightness round my chest too, and I've found myself close to tears for no real reason other than the pain of having to face another day of JW shunning.

My usual consolation I've found in food didn't help this time and I was back on the bulimic roundabout. Stuffing my face looking for solace, only to find I wasn't comforted and then getting rid of the excess to get back in control again.

Suicidal thoughts have plagued me these last few days too. The thought of just putting a gun to my head and pulling the trigger seems a very attractive idea at times. Not that I want to die, I really don't, I know i have much to live for. I just want to stop it hurting.

So I read this thread and the advice people have offered you and I'd like to add my thanks to everyone too.

I followed Hortensia's advice and decided to get busy. The tasks I'd been avoiding dealing with, I dealt with. The people I needed to consult, I consulted. The jobs that needed doing got done. Its been a busy day and I feel better for it.

Not only am I now physically tired but also better organized which is helping me relax.

Thanks to all you guys for this great thread. Tomorrow I'm gonna try poppers advice to stop the swirl of thoughts that go round and round in my head, thoughts that regularly drag me down into the pit. Yes perhaps its time to start enjoying the here and now for once.

BZ xxx

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Any Good Ideas for a Letter to the Editor?

by AK - Jeff in

regarding this matter?

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/medical/176165/1/blood-being-refused-here-in-my-area.

i think i will write one this week.

boyzone

AK-rekrul

So your idea of refuting the points in Jeff's letter is to question his motives, malign his character and slur his family? Now where have I seen those tactics before? Oh yeah, virtually every edition of the Watchtower. Smart move there rekrul - not.

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Show-down with elder at the kingdom hall

by Hobo Ken in

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this is podcast 8 in the death or obedience series.. this was recorded on christmas day 2008.. after our last visit from two local elders my wife felt she could no longer be known as a jehovah's witness and had chosen to disassociate herself in november 2008.. we had been on a family holiday and had returned to find that one of the local elders who had visited us had warned off my mother-in-law from having anything to do with my wife - her daughter.

he also made false statements about one of my children.. i decided to confront this elder at the kingdom hall.

this podcast is the recording of our conversation.. notice how he denies making such statements to my mother-in-law and falsely accuses me of teaching her beliefs contrary to jehovah's witnesses.. i ask whether it's a sin to no longer be a jehovah's witness?.

boyzone

Ronnie HUNTER???? A relative Mark?

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Witness parents using "loophole" to associate with Disfellowshiped children! threats?

by Witness 007 in

in my old congregation there are many disfellowshiped young ones.

the parents use the watchtower rule that they need "assistance" from their children therefore can have them over and associate with them more freely.

this has clearly been abused as disfellowshiped kids taking the whole family on hloidays out to dinner, etc....but the elders turn a blind eye.

boyzone

My mum and dad are elderly and I'm the only daughter nearby to care for them if there's a problem. Dad is usually uber strict when it comes to the JW rules yet they still talk to me and associate whenever they like, its not just confined to "necessary business".

Considering how much strong council they've had recently on shunning xJW family, I'm surprised dad is still talking. When I asked him about it, he said, "I just let common sense prevail". Thats all he would say.

So whilst I'm grateful that they're common sense IS prevailing, its a shame the rest of the congregation are showing a distinct lack of common sense and actively shun at every opportunity.

Of course I also know how expedient it is for the elders to let mum and dad talk to me. I'm not daft either, I know who primarily needs to care for them if there's a problem, and the elders don't want that responsibility thats for sure.

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Sending Out a Letter to My JW Daughter - Give Me Your Thoughts Please

by flipper in

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some of you probably read my jw daughter's letter to mrs. flipper and me a few weeks ago where she tried explaining to mrs. flipper why she doesn't have anything to do with me ( says i talk negative towards the organization ) .

in that letter though she showed some flashes of her authentic, kind personality and told us she loves us.

but much of the letter was proselytizing to us about how bad the system is and how jeovah will bring a paradise, etc.

boyzone

lovely post, post, post.

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Here is the GB photo from the new book "Bearing Thorough Witness"

by BonaFide in

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boyzone

Wolves in sheeps clothing..

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Show-down with elder at the kingdom hall

by Hobo Ken in

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this is podcast 8 in the death or obedience series.. this was recorded on christmas day 2008.. after our last visit from two local elders my wife felt she could no longer be known as a jehovah's witness and had chosen to disassociate herself in november 2008.. we had been on a family holiday and had returned to find that one of the local elders who had visited us had warned off my mother-in-law from having anything to do with my wife - her daughter.

he also made false statements about one of my children.. i decided to confront this elder at the kingdom hall.

this podcast is the recording of our conversation.. notice how he denies making such statements to my mother-in-law and falsely accuses me of teaching her beliefs contrary to jehovah's witnesses.. i ask whether it's a sin to no longer be a jehovah's witness?.

boyzone

Hi iknowall558

This elder is an appalling person and these podcasts show him in a very bad light. His unwillingness to admit where he got his info from speaks volumes and the only conclusion anyone can reach is that he was lying to your mum and making things up to portray you and Matt in as bad a light as possible. In fact, his whole reason was to make sure she sticks to the rules and shuns you. The rules come first - every time.

Reading that part about the conversation repeated on the platform by your brother-in-law was awful. How you didn't walk up and give the lad a good slap around the face after that I just don't know. What a wicked thing for someone to do to another, all for disagreeing with the Society!

It goes to show just who their god really is doesn't it? Its not Jehovah its not Jesus, its the Organization. They worship that organization so much that they're willing to lie, slander, gossip, use false arguments, create strife and divisions and inflict deep emotional pain to keep its reputation intact.

I've faced similiar and know what you're all going through. My son was baptized at 18. He "came out" 3 years later but wasn't disassociated or disfellowshipped. He decided to leave quietly, stopped attending meetings and dropped off the JW radar. After 6 months (I suspect at the request of the CO) the elders decided they couldn't just let him leave and tried to contact him, not with the motive of trying to bring him back, but with a view to disassociate him because of, and I quote, "our paramount concern is the reputation of the congregation". My son tried everything to avoid the elders at this point. He didn't answer the phone, or the door to them and managed to avoid them for a few weeks more. But they didn't give up, eventually they caught up with him and asked him that loaded question "do you still want to be known as a Jehovahs Witness?" Of course he said no. From that point on he was formally disassociated.

When I confronted the elder responsible and asked him why he had to pursue my son even after he'd left the congregation, I was told it was to keep the paperwork tidy. I was supposed to shun him, his grandparents were told to shun him and all the friends he grew up with now refused to even look at him, all to keep the paperwork tidy???? It was only after a conversation with my son that I was told the main reason was concern for their reputation, not him.

Whatever the reason, both were poor excuses.

The elders are all the same Lorraine, pathetic sad individuals who deserve our pity. May the Lord forgive them because I still have difficulty.

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The Biggest B.S. stories you've heard from a talk

by superman in

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a few years ago at a convention, they related a story of a jw who was shot during service.

but rather then stop and get medical attention (like a normal person would have done) they moved on to the next door to finish the street.

when they got to the house the householder just so happened to be a (you guessed it) nurse!

boyzone

So this sister is out on field service and a guy is telling her off for spending so much time knocking on doors when she should be caring for her house. The sister tells him that she got up at the crack of dawn and has completed all her housework before starting on field service. The householder doesn't believe her so she invites him round to her home to show him how pristine it is. The householder is so impressed that he agrees to a bible study.

This far-fetched piece of rubbish was given in a public talk. The looks of scepticism on the audience faces was priceless.

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apostasy is alive and well in scotland

by ninja in

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ninja,iknowall and hobo ken.

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boyzone

Awww, I wanna be in Scotland too! Anyone here from the South Coast of UK? Island based?

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What are they being told at the hall these days that would explain....................

by Luo bou to in

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little background.

some fifteen years ago when i woke up to the deception and deprogrammed myself ....i tried to rescue my wife but she refused to consider anything that questioned wt authority.

i was however successful with my son, now 26 and working as a psychologist.

boyzone

Hi Luo bou. They've just had heavy indocrination on "How to treat a Disfellowshipped person" at the meetings. It was part of what used to be the congregation book study but now its part of the main midweek meeting and calls itself the congregation bible study.

They're currently going through the "Keep yourselves in God's Love" book which has the above titled appendix.

Also the spring circuit assembly has another hard-hitting talk on this subject.

The excuse that all this shunning is somehow loving is an absolute joke. Reminds me of a husband beating his wife to a pulp while at the same time saying "what you crying for? You know I love you".