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  New book - Any thoughts?

  by Jack Burton in

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  i'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the latest steaming pile of $#@!

  from the convention this year.

  my mother in law took the kids to the convention for one day.

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  Bearing thorough witness about God's kingdom

  Any chance of a PDF file on this one please Atlantis?
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  How many lives have been RUINED by the Organization? Experiences?

  by BonaFide in

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  i think that some people deserve to be excommunicated, such as pedophiles.

  but what about the tens of thousands of others that have their life wrenched out from under them by being disfellowshipped?.

  and what about those that have a family member that died because of not receiving a blood transfusion?

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  The sense of failure the Organization gave me was so acute that I nearly took my own life. The depression was so deep that to not feel the guilt of seeing my sons and husband dying at armageddon after they left was very attractive. So I took as many paracetamol tablets as I can find. Lucky I'm still here to write this.

  ruined my life? No, not ruined, not totally. Just damaged. Damage thats going to take a long time to repair, but it'll mend slowly.
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  An interesting birthday party

  by boyzone in

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  there was i all ready for a fantastic night out down the local pub to celebrate my boss's birthday.

  me, hubby and all the gang from work were there dressed in our fabulous 70's retro gear ready to partayy.

  there's me dressed in a sleek fitting psychadelic mini dress with platform silver boots and a blonde wig.. the place is packed, and i mean heaving.

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  Hi Baba, undercover and Pandoras Cat.

  Yes its empowering! Once I let go of the fear of them, I had a great time. None of us were drunk, I just had 2 glasses of wine, just enough to loosen up and enjoy the night. Hubby was the same, he had a couple of pints but the dancing on tables in this place is a must, its what the place is famous for.

  The elders can blow hot and cold on their strictness I think it depends how many other things they've got going on. My son had left the congregation for 6 months when the same elders did everything they could to get in touch with him despite the avoidance tactics he employed. In the end they got him and asked him the loaded question "do you still want to be known as a JW?". Of course the answer was no, so he's now disassociated.

  Yet my husband stopped going 4 years ago apart from the occassional memorial and they've left him alone. But of course, now they've got more than 2 witnesses to him celebrating a "pagan" birthday so they might use this against him especially as he still has contact with some witnesses through work.

  PANDORAS CAT - Yes it makes you wonder why all those sisters were there on a Saturday night and they know the place is famous for its dancing on tables. They were all eating a meal which is no big deal, and I saw some get up and dance (not on the tables) but it was the "happy birthday" singing that finished it for them.

  This congregation has a history of tattling to my parents at every opportunity, thats one of the reasons why I resigned. I once said hello to a sister in the coffee shop where I worked. She ran straight to my parents house and told them what a lousy person I was, even crying on their shoulder because I'd "embarrassed" her like that. Mum and dad were offhand with me for weeks until I found out and put them straight on what really happened.

  So I guess we wait and see if we get the call. Andrew's a bit on edge but I think he's ready to take a stand.
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  ...A Doggie Day in Hell...

  by OUTLAW in

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  ever have one of those days..when you go outside,and part of your dogs throat has been ripped out?...

  that was the begining of my day... i have no idea what attacked him..whatever it was,was f*cking vicious!

  !..there was a 2 inch hole of missing fur and skin on his neck.....and a severed artery......also a 2 inch hole of missing fur and skin on his leg.....and..another severed artery.....there was blood everywhere... the nearest vet is 1 1/2 hours away..i phoned in and told the doctor to be ready for me... i tied the dogs wounds up with tee-shirts to try to minimilize the bleeding..then put a 100 lb bleeding dog,in the back of the truck..........poor dog tried to stand up in the truck..his neck started to gush with blood..i got him to lie down..the bleeding slowed.....i jumped in the truck and drove..that was one long hour and a half... the doctor came out..looked at the dog,ran back in and brought out a stretcher..it took three of us to bring him in so he would`nt move around..that dog has spunk!..lol!!.

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  Great News! Good to hear he's on the mend. congrats bud, good on yer.
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  What WAS that then?

  by lurk3r in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it was a hot summer.

  too hot to sleep in the house.

  my ex and myself talked about how nice it would be to get away for a camping trip, but we knew we wouldn't be able to work it into the schedule...so hey, we decided to pitch a tent in the back yard, and spend a night or two under the stars.. .

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  Thats creepy Lurkr. Could you have left the stereo on low and it was hissing?
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  ...A Doggie Day in Hell...

  by OUTLAW in

  1. jw
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  ever have one of those days..when you go outside,and part of your dogs throat has been ripped out?...

  that was the begining of my day... i have no idea what attacked him..whatever it was,was f*cking vicious!

  !..there was a 2 inch hole of missing fur and skin on his neck.....and a severed artery......also a 2 inch hole of missing fur and skin on his leg.....and..another severed artery.....there was blood everywhere... the nearest vet is 1 1/2 hours away..i phoned in and told the doctor to be ready for me... i tied the dogs wounds up with tee-shirts to try to minimilize the bleeding..then put a 100 lb bleeding dog,in the back of the truck..........poor dog tried to stand up in the truck..his neck started to gush with blood..i got him to lie down..the bleeding slowed.....i jumped in the truck and drove..that was one long hour and a half... the doctor came out..looked at the dog,ran back in and brought out a stretcher..it took three of us to bring him in so he would`nt move around..that dog has spunk!..lol!!.

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  How's he doing Outlaw? Whats the latest...?

  Sending you and Dante good vibes bud, hang in there.
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  An interesting birthday party

  by boyzone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was i all ready for a fantastic night out down the local pub to celebrate my boss's birthday.

  me, hubby and all the gang from work were there dressed in our fabulous 70's retro gear ready to partayy.

  there's me dressed in a sleek fitting psychadelic mini dress with platform silver boots and a blonde wig.. the place is packed, and i mean heaving.

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  There was I all ready for a fantastic night out down the local pub to celebrate my boss's birthday. Me, hubby and all the gang from work were there dressed in our fabulous 70's retro gear ready to partayy. There's me dressed in a sleek fitting psychadelic mini dress with platform silver boots and a blonde wig.

  The place is packed, and I mean heaving. 3 deep at the bar I finally stagger back to our table in my heels and little dress, drinks in hand, only to look straight into the eyes of sister June Morgan!. To top it all she was sitting at a table just by us with 8 other sisters all from my former congregation.

  shit.

  I get back to our table and start to laugh hysterically at the irony of it. The looks started to come my way from the dubs with increasing frequency as they realised it was me. I don't think they were too sure to begin with, partly due to the wig and dress but also because I'd lost 5 stone since leaving.

  Now what? My gut reaction was to go home. The last thing I needed was the gossip mongers to head straight for my JW dad which would've ended up in a lecture from him about vomit eating dogs etc.

  But then I thought, what am I doing?? I'm a 44 year old woman, not a child. Why do I care what they think, or for that matter what my dad thinks. I figured the very best way of handling this was to show them I can have a great time without them. So thats exactly what I did.

  A large glass of wine later I was on the tables dancing the night away with the rest of our party. I still got quite a few looks but I think alot of them weren't so much disaproving ones but jealousy. Well, I like to think so anyway, just humour me on that one.

  Of course the icing on the cake was when the DJ insisted we all sang Happy Birthday and raise a glass to my boss. I sang my heart out with the best of them which sealed it with the witnesses and they scurried enmasse for the exit.

  As expected dad paid me a visit this afternoon to "just ask what I'd been up to this weekend?" "Oh nothing much" I replied. He hesitated then tried again. "Did you do anything INTERESTING?" (stressing the "interesting") I said yes we went to a party, it was a good night and we all had a really good time. Then the clincher. "was it a birthday party?" LOL!! "Yes dad - do you want a cuppa?" said I, trying to change the subject.

  And then to my surprise, he dropped the subject. I get the feeling he just wanted confirmation so he could feedback to elders. Now this doesn't bother me at all as I disassociated and the elders have no hold on me. But my husband Andrew is a baptized bro - a fader, and I get the feeling there could be consequences for him.

  hmm, what do you reckon, is Andrew in trouble? I think we could be in for a visit. I'll let you know if anything comes of it.
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  Books that touch us.

  by PSacramento in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  not sure if there was a thread like this before, but.... there are times that certain books touch us in our spirtual lives, sometimes in an emotional way, other times in a theocratical way.. the shack by william young touched me deeply and renewed my faith in jesus and god.. in search of christain freedom and crisis of conscience by raymond franz, made me aware that the issues i laways had with organized religion were not just mine.. question of consceince by charles davis, showed me the the issues that mr.franz faced in the wt were faced by other in the rcc far earlier and made me understand that we must truly server christ and not any man-made organization.. the jesus i never knew by philip yancey, which i read after the shack motivate dme to read the nt with new eyes.. the nrsv of the nt with greek interlinear, one of the best study interlinears i have.. the oxford bible commentary, a must for any student of the bible.. .

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  I liked "More Jesus, Less Religion" by Steve Arterburn. Excellent read for helping you see the need for a relationship built faith and not an organizational one.
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  The WT contradict the bible they quote in the very next sentence regarding "JWs"!

  by Chalam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this point has been made before but i think the very words the wt write which contradict the bible the quote make the point powerfully.. have a read for yourself http://www.watchtower.org/e/jt/index.htm.

  jesus told his disciples: "you will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon you, and you will be witnesses of me both in jerusalem and in all judea and samaria and to the most distant part of the earth.

  "acts 1:8.. hence, some 6,000,000 persons today who are telling the good news of jehovah's kingdom by christ jesus in over 230 lands feel that they properly refer to themselves as jehovah's witnesses.. .

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  The term "firstborn" doesn't necessarily mean the first out the womb, it means pre-eminent one or superior one.

  http://www2.mf.no/bibelprog/vines?word=¯t0001056

  "firstborn" (from protos, "first," and tikto, "to beget"), is used of Christ as born of the Virgin Mary, Luke 2:7; further, in His relationship to the Father, expressing His priority to, and preeminence over, creation, not in the sense of being the "first" to be born."

  Educate yourself.
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  What's YOUR Idea of Weekend Fun?

  by minimus in

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  personally, i love music.

  i typically will see r&b/dance bands on a weekend.

  i'm not a homebody.

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  The weekend off work.

  sunshine

  music

  family

  friends

  can't get any better than that.