Posts by boyzone

Superb summary and commentaries Blondie and Mary. Thanks for your input on this. I just hope that many will recognise the desperate tone of this WT and will vote with their feet.

Nothing like a good dose of GB lunacy to get a few more moving out....

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How Can an Outed One Find a Study Buddy to Get Reinstated as a JW?

by Spike Tassel in

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boyzone

Spike

Apart from this bit.......

but keep going to the elders for help. Try and stick to one congregation for meetings

Reniaa is right, listen to her.

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Judge Bans Shunning

by Farkel in

today i spoke with a former jw i've been in touch with for several years and discovered what i think could be a major bombshell for the wts.

as we all know, shunning is the most powerful weapon the wt cult has over its members and for decades the wts has been able to get away with practicing it at their whim.

the us and other courts have permitted them to to use it, even though it destroys families and has ruined countless lives.

Judge Bans Shunning

by Farkel in

today i spoke with a former jw i've been in touch with for several years and discovered what i think could be a major bombshell for the wts.

as we all know, shunning is the most powerful weapon the wt cult has over its members and for decades the wts has been able to get away with practicing it at their whim.

the us and other courts have permitted them to to use it, even though it destroys families and has ruined countless lives.

boyzone

Hi

I know this thread was started years ago but I'm looking for Society quotes that explain WHY they shun. Whats the real purpose behind this practice?

I'm looking for quotes that identify the purpose as "to shame" the wrongdoer or words like that. I've searched the CD rom and others sites but have only found one from WT 1963

Can anyone suggest anymore?

Thanks!

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IF it is NOT wise for a man to be ALONE with a woman he's NOT married to

by Spike Tassel in

sola scriptura answered andersonsinfo:.

the wt leadership has hammered into all of it's elders and rank & file's heads, that it is not wise for a man to be alone with a woman he is not married too (adult or young woman... ie 14).

even in congregation sanctioned duties.. so, why, then, do so many service pairings involve just that: a brother alone in the territory (even if it's to make a call) with a sister he's not married to?.

boyzone

Forget the elders Spike, you're a grown man, you can make decisions on whose company you keep for yourself.

Just be friends, then if there's a spark, fan the flame a little. Get to know each other and forget the gossipmongers, they can take a hike.

I recently spoke to a brother who's just been reinstated. The elders were giving him a hard time because he rode to the kingdom hall with just him and his girlfriend in the car and there was "talk".

He said to them, "I own a 3 bedroom house and I live by myself. If I wanted to have sex with my girlfriend I wouldn't be doing it in the car!" Needless to say, it shut them up.

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"We All Lose Faith Sometimes...."

by AllTimeJeff in

those who leave jehovah's witnesses are often misunderstood for the choices that they make after their exit.

from the jehovah's witness (jw) point of view, those who leave are leaving a "spiritual paradise" where "the truth" exists.

those who leave thus put their everlasting life in jeopardy.

boyzone

I can so relate to what you're talking about Jeff. I wanted to cling to a faith almost to prove the JW's in my area wrong, that I haven't "left Jehovah" as they claimed and joined the world in its seedy debauchery as they hoped. But my motive for seeking a faith beyond JW's wasn't pure and I find myself questioning more and more, wanting clearer evidence, tired of chasing shadows and guessing at meanings.

Where is God in all this? I don't know, I've lost him again. I'm scared to pick up the bible and just read. I'm scared incase the words condemn me yet again, and scripture has been used to condemn me so often, to tell me I'm just not good enough....I don't think I can take hearing that again.

At a certain point, it all comes down to faith, which admittedly, is usually wrecked upon a JW exit. What is often misunderstood though is, like the Kingdom Hall, agnosticism and atheism are often stops on a spiritual journey, one that continues to forge ahead. It often isn't a final destination, although for some, it is.

Your word here give me hope. Perhaps this turning toward agnosticism is a phase, a spiritual bus stop. and to be honest, I think we all need to take stops. Many of us take years to heal from the spiritual abuse we've suffered, the damage done to our spiritual side is considerable and no amount of rushing will speed the healing up. For this isn't about our heads, we can all quote why various WT doctrines are false, this is about our hearts, the absolute betrayal of trust - some feel by God himself. Where was God the day I thought he'd sent the Witnesses? How come I was praying for help and 10 minutes later 2 witnesses were at my door seemingly in answer to that prayer? Coincidence? Maybe, I just don't know. All I know is that for the next 21 years, I was spiritually abused (as we all were) by an organization that I thought was an answer to my prayer.

Somehow for faith to be restored, that trust has to be restored too. Anyone knows that isn't something that happens overnight, its a sloooow process. Like a wife thats been cheated on, the husband is gonna have to prove himself trustworthy for many years and in many situations before full trust can be restored completely, if ever. If God wants us back, then he's gonna have to prove himself trustworthy, and that takes both parties to step up to the plate. We have to make ourselves vulnerable and put our trust out there, and God has to step up to the mark and not let us down again.

Are we willing to make ourselves vulnerable to being let down again? I'm not sure if I can do that yet. I'm too scared. i just don't trust Him.

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If your happy leaving the truth why continue.............

by angel eyes in

just want to know why some of you,not all,please dont think im meaning all of you because that truly isnt the case,claim to be happy for leaving the truth,being df etc yet you continue to speak about jehovah or attack him or the organisation??

even for many years after.. this would show that your hurt by them df you.

when someone we love hurts us its natural to want to hurt them back because we have feelings for them.so im thinking that many have love for jehovah still??

boyzone

Why do many of us speak?

A quote. "Evil prevails while good men remain silent".

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"The Thought Police are onto me!" or "So a cult member says to another cult member..."

by sd-7 in

yesterday's meeting was rough.

i admit i intentionally waited till my mom was gone, then sat in my bathrobe and played super star wars on my wii for about a half hour before finally getting dressed for the meeting.

it was fun.

boyzone

sd-7 well done for going careful and not raising mom's defenses. Don't be afraid of the elders, they're nothing. You are in control of your life, not them. Don't give them any more control than you want them to have. As Jamie suggested, use any legitimate excuse to get out of seeing them.

When the elders wanted a word with me, I said I'm not ready to speak yet and I wanted to be left alone, I said if I felt I needed their assistance, I'll let them know. After that they backed off.

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why do we bother being ex-JW's

by besty in

"thank you for that.. i'm only 17 and left jws recently after being raised in it.

hardest thing i've ever done, leaving all my friends and family, so i strongly sympathise with you.

i feel very lucky to be able to see jws for what it really is, and have the opportunity to start really living my life.

boyzone

I feel very lucky to be able to see JWs for what it really is, and have the opportunity to start really living my life. I'm grateful for every witness that is able to see past the lies that are there to make you a closed minded follower."

That alone is reason enough. This young person has their life back thanks to the accurate information they found online. Whats being done on these sites is absolutely life-saving and worth every effort. I'd like to also add my thanks to Frank, Randy, Simon, Rick etc, and all who take the time to blog their experience and knowledge of the Org for the benefit of others.

I recently had a young bible study who thanked me for directing them to AJWRB. After he read that site and asked some pertinent questions of his study conductor he stopped his study. He's now read much more about JW's and feels he had a very narrow escape with a cult.

The louder and more focussed our collective voice is, the more people will wake up - and thats gotta be a good thing.