Mostly 4 and 5. I never really enjoyed going out in the service. Only once, when a cute naked guy opened the door to me and my friend .
Eppie
well, how's your weekend goin'?
mrs ozzie's soakin' in her bubble bath, listening to the rain falling outside, and all is quiet this evenin'.
bumped into a branch committee member in the supermarket earlier today.
Mostly 4 and 5. I never really enjoyed going out in the service. Only once, when a cute naked guy opened the door to me and my friend .
Eppie
this question is not to offend anyone, it's just that i have noticed people have many different reasons for leaving the borg and i thought it would be interesting to find out why some of you left.. for example:some leave because they want to be free to smoke, drink, gamble, fornicate, grow beards, celebrate xmas, take blood and drugs, etc.some leave because they never believed and now are old enough to do as they want.some leave because they have seen that they can be happy living life free from any religious organization, yet still feel safe in god's love.some have been hurt by the borg and have taken their wounds away to lick them, waiting to see justice.some have trusted the borg with their lives, time and money...........only to discover recently that there has been lies, cover-ups and hypocracy in the borg.
now they have left but need to belong to another organization to feel happy.. i left the borg because i found out about the cover-ups and lies.
my family was abused by it, my child was sexually abused and i was df'ed.
Dear Gumby and AlanF,
I am quite positive that this is exactly the reason why they discourage JWs going to college, of course besides the obvious reasons that you see all the things you miss out on. It really made me furious one day when I went to the book study (in the first semester of my college I never went anymore after that) and a sister who was, sorry to say, not very clever, answered one of the first question in that Jehovah book of two years ago. It was about the forces of nature, and about what molecules and atoms are etc. She said something about gravity that was so plane stupid but the elder leading it just said: 'yes, and this gravity law is so clever invented that of course it is designed by Jehovah and that it could not just have evolved....yadiyadiya'. This made me furious! I raised my hand and said: as a science-student I would like to correct that answer and started explaining it in very common words and very shortly, but after say 20 seconds the elder interrupted me and said: 'well the scientific knowledge is not really important here the paragraph just shows the importance of Jehovah's creations.' and he continued. I just stood up and left and never returned again.
AlanF your story is so amazing! Im sure that every JW that woud really look up everything would leave. Unfortunately no one ever seems to do that.
Eppie
this question is not to offend anyone, it's just that i have noticed people have many different reasons for leaving the borg and i thought it would be interesting to find out why some of you left.. for example:some leave because they want to be free to smoke, drink, gamble, fornicate, grow beards, celebrate xmas, take blood and drugs, etc.some leave because they never believed and now are old enough to do as they want.some leave because they have seen that they can be happy living life free from any religious organization, yet still feel safe in god's love.some have been hurt by the borg and have taken their wounds away to lick them, waiting to see justice.some have trusted the borg with their lives, time and money...........only to discover recently that there has been lies, cover-ups and hypocracy in the borg.
now they have left but need to belong to another organization to feel happy.. i left the borg because i found out about the cover-ups and lies.
my family was abused by it, my child was sexually abused and i was df'ed.
some leave because they want to be free to smoke, drink, gamble, fornicate, grow beards, celebrate Xmas, take blood and drugs, etc.
Well I must say that that was my original reason to leave, at least that is what I always believed. But already mentioned by others, it was more a nice side-effect that those things happened. The real reason I left was the fact that I went from a 'protected' high school in which I only had JW friends to a college far away from house and I started to think for myself. For the first time I took sociology and psychology classes etc. and I saw the world the way it is, through MY eyes, not through JWs eyes. I realised that stuff that happened within the JW religion is not correct and their claim that your only true friends can be JWs is just BS! I made great friends in college (and still am) and after 2 or 3 years I still have them while my JW friends immediately shunned me. College is a good place to start thinking (even though a bit late ), I wish more JW kids would go there (that's prob why the org doesn't want that).
Eppie
i have just come across this website and was amazed to read to many similar experiences to what i went through with the 'loving' congregations of jehovah's witnesses.
i have now been gone 4 years but after reading some experiences i realise that the pain they caused still remains.
i am now quite angry at the way they control your life and brainwash you - i am so glad i finally saw what was happening and got out.
Since leaving I have gone to University and graduated last year with a degree and I have been with a wonderful man for 3 years
Good for you Sipho! What did you study? Im graduating this year (BSc and will continue from premed to med school), and also have found a wonderful boyfriend, someone indeed with an opinion and more respect for women ever found in a JW. He is very anti-religious though, first I defended it but now start to see his point.
WELCOME!!!!!
I hope to see you around to post the rest of your story,
Eppie
dear all,.
i would like to ask you a question.
when i was 17 i got pregnant by my worldly boyfriend.
Dear all,
I would like to ask you a question.
When I was 17 I got pregnant by my worldly boyfriend. I was baptised when 16. I won't go into details over the fact that that as a JW was of course a problem. When i was 7 months pregnant I got a beautiful baby girl. Unfortunately she died the next day. I recently found out that the JWs I was living with at that moment (I had lots of problems with my parents) knew from the beginning onwards that she was ill and was going to die very soon. They did however not inform me and as I didn't know I could not be there and could not have her in my arms when she died. After I quit the JWs I wanted to kick their a$$es for that but I passed that stage now and only try to remember her. I am wondering however whether you in your post-JW belief-systems think that babies who were just born go to heaven? Or do you think that their spirits will get another chance in another family?
Eppie
do you generally have things made for you, things set and life generally go your way?
or is everything is a battle and a major fight for survival?
just curious.
First of all mouthy: i feel for you, i just studied rheumatoid arthritis again in class today (Im a med student) and it doesn't sound very nice...i'm happy you still have the strength to post here regularly.
As to the question: in general things go the way I want them to go, except of course for the whole JW thing, but I must say that is getting better as well. Of course not all goes my way, people die, friends move, my boyfriend lives in another country , but overall I cannot complain, Im living the happy student life and i just regularly remind myself what my life would be like when i was still a JW: probably a 21-yr-old-mom with two babies, running around to go to the meetings in time, without a career and true friends. So everything is great compared to that!
Eppie
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for some, there is real fear that they must speak to the elders if they decide to stop by your house .some don't know what they will do if the elders begin questioning them.
what will you do if they want to talk to you?
Hm interesting question again minimus! It's very applicable for me now as I yesterday ran into a JW in town while walking hand in hand with my worldly boyfriend and while smoking a cigarette.. She came up to me and said 'hey don't i know you?' And I just said 'no, I don't think so, maybe we just go to the same stores or so'. She seemed convinced but if not.....she of course will go to an elder to hand me in. And what would I do then? Seriously I would just ignore them! Then they probably would just df me but then they cannot do that on another ground than my unwillingness, I don't want to answer any more questions, don't want to talk to them, to put any energy in convincing them even though i know that's impossible. I don't feel like being afraid of getting Dfd anymore! They can do it if they really want to, no more fear, no more looking over my shoulder when lighting a cigarette, tough luck, this is me they can do whatever they want but can't hurt me anymore.
Eppie
dear friends,.
the winds of change are blowing through my life right now.
as some of you know, i am getting a divorce.
Hey Robyn,
Even though I don't know you I would like to wish you strength and luck the coming time and will hope to see you on the board again!
Eppie
i just realised that i have committed three 'wbts-sins', or did something at least very questionable in the eyes of the jws, in the past two days (besides the regular sex, drugs and rock&roll of course .
i went to a groooooooooooooovy concert (and i got the signature of the lead-singer on my arm!!!!
and the good thing is: i don't even feel guilty anymore!!!!!!
I just realised that I have committed three 'WBTS-sins', or did something at least very questionable in the eyes of the JWS, in the past two days (besides the regular sex, drugs and rock&roll of course ):
I went to a groooooooooooooovy concert (and I got the signature of the lead-singer on my arm!!!! ), I voted as a very good citizen, and I signed up to participate in the Youth model of the United Nations.
And the good thing is: I don't even feel guilty anymore!!!!!! (I do look around though to see whether there are dubs around or not, but only cause then I can book 'em in as they are there too )
Eppie
isn't it great to wake up on sunday morning and not go to the meeting!
i love it.
no hurried underlining of the wt study so it looks like i studied, no stifling ties and lame-ass suits.
Yup, Im especially happy not to have to go out into the field again and being so ashamed of yourself that you are doing that and praying that the doors won't open!
Yup tons of new rituals....hanging out with my friends or just enjoying a ly-in with my boyfriend (who's also very happy im not a dub anymore...)
Life is so much better without all the rituals! Awhile ago i went to my grandfathers funeral and of course an elder was giving a 'preach' and I unconsciously just slipped into my old-im-sitting-here-but-am-not-listening-when-the-hell-is-this-over-mindset of when i was still a dub.
I love my life now! No more rituals or obliged meetings!
Eppie