OK, I got up enough courage to ask my sibling if anything is going down in Bethel.
Turns out they are doing some heavy layoffs.
Some Bethelites have been there a long time.
Over 20 years of fulltime service are going to be come Special Pioneers.
Under 20 years, regular pioneers.
Rumor has it the GB maybe moving out of Brooklyn.
Since at least one of them has left 124 building for a different residence.
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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Smell 'em a Mile Away!!!
by prophecor inyou get to talking to folks, for the first time.
you here thier speech, watch how they carry themselves and before you know it, you think you've got an idea of the type person you're engaging with.........then bam!!!!
it hits you.
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by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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Belbab,
That sounds like something the society would do.
good theory, very plausible.
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Why the Watchtowers "War" argument is totally bogus
by drew sagan infrom my own personal experience the watchtowers position on war always appeared to be one of the most difficult issues to navigate.
a number of times when i was first leaving the wts i spoke with jws who all used this argument to show me how "wrong" i was about the "truth".
while i knew the watchtowers arguments where wrong, i had a very difficult time figuring out exactly why it was wrong.
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Drew, I knew of 2 JWs who joined the military while active good standing witnesses.
In regards to becoming a majority, I think the closest the society has come is on the island of St. Helena.
I believe the yearly report shows a stunning 1:30 ratio of witnesses.
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Weeklong Elders School for POs This Year? Any info?
by Seeker4 ini just heard that my ex-father in law will be attending a weeklong elder's school at patterson for presiding overseers sometime this year.
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Oracle...
If you are an elder, you should go!
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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If my brother didn't know that I am not going to meetings, he would give me info on what is going on.
However, he knows and thus I dont get any info.
I do agree that the egos of the PO, SO, and Secretary are all larger than life.
I have introduced them to a visiting friend before as "Br. Pain-in-the-A$$" and they added on saying "I'm the PO"
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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it is interesting that they will eliminate the title. However, I wonder if they will eliminate the position?
Just like in Bethel, they eliminated the title Bethel Elder, but the position still exists.
As a bethelite you still need to go to a Bethelite Elder, with problems rather than a standard Elder.
This leads me to conclude, the titles may go away, but the actions and authority will remain.
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Help reform the crumbling tower with your bright ideas
by JH inlets say that the watchtower approached you to help them be more successful, so that more people join and be happier jw's.. what would you suggest?.
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It depends if they are trying to keep the "we are the true religion" look.
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Any elders, ms's, CO's, DO's or current Bethelites here?
by oneairhead ini think without blowing your cover you could answer this thread if you are still one of the above.
i would like to know if an when i have a more frank discussion with an active jdub i can honestly state that i know of such ones that have these same doubts.. one.
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good call Oompa!
Actually I met a GB member.... Barr? Barber? hmmm....
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why are there not 50,000 posts a day here? My wife has read twice now!!!!!
by oompa inthis site is awesome, but i don't know how many current or former dubs even know about it.
i found a home here pretty quick, and have really not bothered to look at other sites....are we #1. the search feature is great now, and i appreciate the effort put into it.
is there a way or need to donate?
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metaspy
I too love this place.
good to hear also that your wife has read this forum. There is lots of very good info and good friends!