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  30

  by metaspy in

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  hard to believe that i turn 30 today.. i have only been free from the watchtower for maybe 4 years.. it seems so strange to have a birthday party and have people tell me "happy birthday".. .

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  Hard to believe that I turn 30 today.

  I have only been free from the watchtower for maybe 4 years.

  It seems so strange to have a birthday party and have people tell me "happy birthday".
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  Who Owns Kingdom Halls & Land?

  by InterestedOne in

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  i was just in a service meeting where the elder announced that the kh had been sold.

  he gave the dollar amount and said it would be split between the two cong's currently meeting in it.

  the cong i attend will move to another location which currently has a building with another cong in it, but there is also enough open space on the plot of land to build another edifice.

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  Just like when you are paying off a house the Bank owns the land until you pay off the building - the society "owns" the land until the congregation pays it off. Essentially they bought it and you are paying them back (with interest).

  After the congregation pays it off, they own it.

  However, the first thing a new congregation does is create a stipulation - if the congregation ever folds or gets disbanded, all assets are returned to the Society.
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  My weight loss diary

  by metaspy in

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  i have been living in florida for almost a year.

  during that time i have gained 20 pounds!!.

  those 20 pounds are on top of the 15 i was already overweight when i came down.. i am now at the heaviest i have ever been in my life.

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  I have been living in Florida for almost a year. During that time I have gained 20 pounds!!
  Those 20 pounds are on top of the 15 I was already overweight when I came down.
  I am now at the heaviest I have ever been in my life. (205)

  I refuse to remain at this weight!
  My goal is to get back to what I weighed when I was in High School – 165.
  I am going to document my day-to-day exercise and weight.

  If you have suggestions on what to do for exercises, I am open to them.
  I am starting by doing bike riding, jumping jacks, push-ups and crunches.
  Maybe even a little bit of Wii Fit.

  http://chadwebdesign.com/weight/
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  Oompa update

  by Robert7 in

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  i don't post much, so most of you don't know me.

  i live in nc near oompa, and he has become a good friend with my wife and i over the last few years.. so as an update, my wife visited oompa today!

  he's recovering, but has a long recovery to go.

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  Maybe it is because I don't check this forum very much, How did Oompa get hurt?
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  What Would Bring The Watchtower Down?

  by metatron in

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  randy/dogpatch has posted some interesting material about troubles in the organization.

  this info generated a lot of skepticism about the possibility of watchtower fragmentation.

  frankly, it is very easy to be skeptical considering everything that ordinary witnesses are willing to believe or put up with.. i think it would be useful to realistically consider what sort of event(s) would bring the watchtower down or cause its fragmentation?

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  I think a combination of 2 things would bring the WBTS to its knees:

  1) loss of its head - the Governing Body (heck, all of "bethel")
  If all of these guys went AWOL and no one knew where they were. (like a shallow grave some where)

  2) loss of its funds
  WBTS has a crap ton of money, investments, land, etc. If this were to get eliminated in one whack perhaps by theft.

  The combination of 1 and 2 would devastate the society. Because essentially those 2 things are what keep it going.

  If the world headquarters were to die, but the money stays, someone would step up, rebuild and continue on.

  If the money goes and the headquarters stays, they just ask for more money and it continues on.

  If both the headquarters and the money goes, it would take a miracle to have someone step up, ask for money and rebuild.
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  What would you do with a Time Machine?

  by oldlightnewshite in

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  for me, i would go back to the day when charles taze russell snuffed it.

  i'd wait for judge rutherford to turn up at the ibsa headquarters, then run him over with a steamroller, in true buster keaton styleee!.

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  I would go back and make all the right investments at the right time.

  I would be the richest man in the world right now.

  With that wealth I would help as many people out as I could in this economy.
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  R.Franz "Christian Freedom" Bk - Misuse of Disfellowshipping -WT Hypocrisy

  by flipper in

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  just finished the chapter in ray's " christian freedom " book on " misuse of disfellowshipping .

  i highly recommend anyone reading it as it has numerous experiences of individuals who were mistreated so unjustly by the wt society's rigid rules - many in spite of 40, 50, or 60 yrs.

  of faithful alleigance to the wt society's rules.

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  Having gone the "fade route" aka "quietly withdraw", I can tell you from personal experience it is not easy and it is anything but quiet. When I first stopped attending meetings I got 2 phone calls a day from different people I knew - they would all tell me how much they missed me. Which is really ironic because for the previous 3 years no one gave a crap about my life or my problems.

  The elders too hounded me - telling me I was going down the wrong path, or that I had "apostate" thoughts.

  Now that it has been 2.5 years since I stopped attending, I have friends that I grew up with who refuse to talk to me. All because I am "inactive". Or in some people's eyes they think I am "apostate" even though I go out of my way NOT to tell anyone why I left.

  Those PR quotes are a load of bull. There is tons of pressure, nagging, and crap that the organization throws at those who try to bow out of the borg.
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  JWs vs. Christ's Witnesses?

  by metaspy in

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  i was talking to my dad today, and he asked when the jws changed their name.

  i replied "in 1933 or 34, cedar point - they became the jehovah's witnesses" he said "no, when did they change to christ's witnesses?

  " i had no reply.. apparently, he had a jw come to his door (from a car group of 5 doing the neighborhood).

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  Thanks Blondie!

  It would be funny if it was a break off group. Perhaps she had watchtowers to show how wrong it was.
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  JWs vs. Christ's Witnesses?

  by metaspy in

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  i was talking to my dad today, and he asked when the jws changed their name.

  i replied "in 1933 or 34, cedar point - they became the jehovah's witnesses" he said "no, when did they change to christ's witnesses?

  " i had no reply.. apparently, he had a jw come to his door (from a car group of 5 doing the neighborhood).

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  It didn't really come across to me as a line to continue the conversation, as the convo was over. It seemed like a correction that he had the wrong religion. But I have never heard of Christs witnesses
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  JWs vs. Christ's Witnesses?

  by metaspy in

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  i was talking to my dad today, and he asked when the jws changed their name.

  i replied "in 1933 or 34, cedar point - they became the jehovah's witnesses" he said "no, when did they change to christ's witnesses?

  " i had no reply.. apparently, he had a jw come to his door (from a car group of 5 doing the neighborhood).

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  I was talking to my dad today, and he asked when the JWs changed their name. I replied "in 1933 or 34, Cedar Point - they became the Jehovah's witnesses" He said "No, when did they change to Christ's Witnesses?" I had no reply.

  Apparently, he had a JW come to his door (from a car group of 5 doing the neighborhood). My dad told them "I see you are JWs, I am not interested." The lady replied "We are Christ's Witnesses" Which confused my dad because she had a Watchtower in her book bag.

  I wasn't there, so I can't verify if they were JWs or if it was some new religion calling themselves Christ's witnesses. It would seem odd that they would mimic the door-to-door of JWs and the name.

  Any one heard of Christ's witnesses? or was the JW just pulling BS out of her sleeve?