Posts by RAF

(((Ian and Claire)))
I don't think I really helped you in any way, the thing is that I have (for some reason) an idea about what you are going through and your ability to stay connected with the world and enjoy life as much as you can is showing how STRONG you are in FACT !!! Their is no iner weakness in sikness it's the sikness which is weakening.
This so getting so long for you ... That sometimes I wonder how you deal with it ... but you do (it's such a good example) for anyone of us who could be in the same situation one day.
Thank you !!!
Corinne.

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Independent Thinking

by Jeffro in

i decided to do a search of the watchtower library cd on the phrase 'independent thinking'.

only three times is it ever spoken of as being a good thing.

and those three instances are quite telling about the insidiousness of all of the other times that jw publications consider independent thinking to be such a bad thing.. .

RAF

Thank you ATJ and Jeffro !!!
I may need those information.

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Need some education on THEOLOGY? Start here! Evolutionists take note!

by LittleToe in

http://www.monergism.com/systematic.html.

http://www.rtrc.net/documents/wcf/hodge/wcftoc.htm.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/calvin/institutes.htmlhttp://www.lgmarshall.org/reformed/berkhof_summary.html.

RAF

pirituality is not a religion - But religions use spirituality in the right or the wrong way (that's when in spirituality you have to understand where religious people had filled the blanks from what they have been inspired in there own time whith they're own knowledges). Spîrituality is about to catch what is essential in life in time (and to understand that everything is contextual). A bold statement can be wrong as it can be right (depends on what we are talking about in the details).
About that :
A bold statement can be wrong as it can be right (depends on what we are talking about in the details)
or they ar simply void in any debate since, even only on once side they can't see (or don't want to take into consideration what is void in what they believe).

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I applied to a university yesterday.

by kwintestal in

jw
friends

after a few years of humming and hawing, i decided i would.

it was more of what i would take that held me back then if i should go.. i'm only 28, so i'm not too far behind.

we'll see how working full time and going to school will go.

RAF

Go for it ... !!!

We'll see how working full time and going to school will go

Since you really want it ... you'll put as much effort as you can on it
The only thing I really wanted to go back to school was (I know it's weird) : JOINERY ... but When I've ask for it they told me I was way to old for that (PFFFFFFFFFFFF) it's like they are only schools are for 14 to 20 (as apprentice part time) ... it's tiring sometimes you can't really do what you want.

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hello in there ;-p. wow wow wow.... i never knew such a place existed.... unfortunatly i don't have a lot of time to type right now & believe me i'd need days, perhaps even weeks & i'd probably still feel like i wasn't done.... in short... my name is jodie, i'm from australia, i'm about to turn 32 & i am a jehovah's witness outkast... i wasn't kicked out, i left of my own accord when my parents divorced & i was about 14... my father, my younger brother & me - the 3 black sheep !!

my father was disfellowshipped, he was an elder who also happened to have bi polar... the day ( or technically night ) my father was disfellowshipped was the saddest time of my life - it was more like a death or a funeral, something tragic... when my parents divorced i went to live with dad, i was always closer to my father plus when he left he had nothing... he lived on the river bank in the middle of winter for 6 weeks in a tent ( while his good christian jehovah's witness father & sister slept warm in their beds in the same town... ) dad bought a little caravan & he & i lived in it, eventually he bought some land & built a house & my younger brother joined us.... anyway to cut it all short... i've suffered badly from depression - so badly it's almost killed me & my brother also... the crux of our depression is our mother, our sister's, our grandfather, our aunt's & all of our relatives are jehovah's witnesses - most of them live in the same town as us altho they may as well live on the other side of the world.... you know, sitting here thinking about it all - it all makes perfect sense... how can families be torn apart like this, how do they not realise it is wrong & sad & wicked ??.

i've spent more than half my life trying to have any sort of relationship with the rest of my family.... anyway i have to get going.... hasta la vista .

RAF

Welcome !!!

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Need some education on THEOLOGY? Start here! Evolutionists take note!

by LittleToe in

http://www.monergism.com/systematic.html.

http://www.rtrc.net/documents/wcf/hodge/wcftoc.htm.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/calvin/institutes.htmlhttp://www.lgmarshall.org/reformed/berkhof_summary.html.

RAF

LT LOL ...

This is a cut and past from this thread : http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/129264/1.ashx

I guess it's all about how
Science and religions fill the blanks (nobody is supposed to believe what is improvable YET) since you do believe in blank filling with not proof you are trusting someone (a human being - in other word a scientist is not God each have their own speciallity and they do not agree on everything either)
Spirituality is not a religion - But religions use spirituality in the right or the wrong way (that's when in spirituality you have to understand where religious people had filled the blanks from what they have been inspired in there own time whith they're own knowledges). Spîrituality is about to catch what is essential in life in time (and to understand that everything is contextual). A bold statement can be wrong as it can be right (depends on what we are talking about in the details).
In other word religions are as limited as sciences (what they can deal with in the matter at their own stage) when spirituality is totally open to whatever have it's importance in context.

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The vote is in: SCIENCE vs RELIGION......who won?

by Terry in

history has demonstrated:.

religion is following orders by implicitly trusting someone or something.. science asks questions.. religion purports to answer questions.. science seeks to disprove its own conclusions.. religion seeks to reinforce its own dogma.. science is error-correction toward adjusting for realities as they unfold.. religion internalizes against reality by mocking up a substitute.. science is the most recent development of the human mind.

technology proves science to be successful in advancing human progress.. religion disdains human progress and waits for the end.

RAF

I guess it's all about how
Science and religions fill the blanks (nobody is supposed to believe what is improvable YET) since you do believe in blank filling with not proof you are trusting someone (a human being - in other word a scientist is not God each have their own speciallity and they do not agree on everything either)
Spirituality is not a religion - But religions use spirituality in the right or the wrong way (that's when in spirituality you have to understand where religious people had filled the blanks from what they have been inspired in there own time whith they're own knowledges). Spîrituality is about to catch what is essential in life in time (and to understand that everything is contextual). A bold statement can be wrong as it can be right (depends on what we are talking about in the details).
In other word religions are as limited as sciences (what they can deal with in the matter at their own stage) when spirituality is totally open to whatever have it's importance in context.

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The vote is in: SCIENCE vs RELIGION......who won?

by Terry in

history has demonstrated:.

religion is following orders by implicitly trusting someone or something.. science asks questions.. religion purports to answer questions.. science seeks to disprove its own conclusions.. religion seeks to reinforce its own dogma.. science is error-correction toward adjusting for realities as they unfold.. religion internalizes against reality by mocking up a substitute.. science is the most recent development of the human mind.

technology proves science to be successful in advancing human progress.. religion disdains human progress and waits for the end.

RAF

Qcmbr : good resume (really)