Posts by RAF

i'm new to the forum (in fact, i just joined about 10 minutes before starting this post), and am a new jw (i began learning and attending meetings since about november of '06).

i have a question involving my girlfriend and i, and i'm hoping to find a moral answer.

my girlfriend and i fell in love two summers ago, and we're still pretty young (we're turning 17 this year).

I don't know if you are really 17, I don't know if you really need help ... or if you are playing around (I don't know)
but if you look for help you have to be aware that anybody can tell you anything (you still rely on yourself finally)

you feel Christian check the bible (in being objective - it's an old book it talks about old cultures)
you feel human check your heart (how do you feel about what happen, was it love, was it all about sex)
in both cases (did you hurt anybody? Did you make any promesses just to get what you want or stuff like that? ... if the answer is no ... well get the point)

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When is it 'going too far'?

by nekone041 in

i'm new to the forum (in fact, i just joined about 10 minutes before starting this post), and am a new jw (i began learning and attending meetings since about november of '06).

i have a question involving my girlfriend and i, and i'm hoping to find a moral answer.

my girlfriend and i fell in love two summers ago, and we're still pretty young (we're turning 17 this year).

RAF

it's all in genesis (you've read the bible or not?)
and who don't know the story of David?

I did my job to get there ... Stop following what people tells you blindly (religious or not) ... check yourself if you are really interested in the matter in being objective.

When Paul is talking about mariage before he takes the precaution to say because of fornication (read : lust for lust or people not thinking about the the fact that it's only about sex and get in trouble because love is missing in the picture and it could be painfull for the one who loves) you better get married (means in the first place make the right choice if you get married - because you're gonna make a vow) it's an advice not a law.

Christians are not under the laws ... they are just supposed to be nice with others Period ... there are no sin unforgivable (since you regret sincerely at least when you realise it).

Now check (and take different bibles, cause the NWT is full of whatever makes it very difficult to understand) New standard english version sounds quite good (but that's only what I think) make your own opinion.

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When is it 'going too far'?

by nekone041 in

i'm new to the forum (in fact, i just joined about 10 minutes before starting this post), and am a new jw (i began learning and attending meetings since about november of '06).

i have a question involving my girlfriend and i, and i'm hoping to find a moral answer.

my girlfriend and i fell in love two summers ago, and we're still pretty young (we're turning 17 this year).

RAF

We didn't have intercourse, and we're not going to until after marraige

So what do feel really guilty about ? (no details / just why)

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When is it 'going too far'?

by nekone041 in

i'm new to the forum (in fact, i just joined about 10 minutes before starting this post), and am a new jw (i began learning and attending meetings since about november of '06).

i have a question involving my girlfriend and i, and i'm hoping to find a moral answer.

my girlfriend and i fell in love two summers ago, and we're still pretty young (we're turning 17 this year).

RAF

What is fornication for you ?

Did God say to David he have to marry all his concubines ?

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Just got the weirdest "Clippy" message from Microsoft Word!

by AlmostAtheist in

i was typing up a post and trying to sound sort of like a watchtower writer, intending to mock them.

i guess microsoft must be in bed with the watchtower or something, 'cause this message popped up: .

weird, eh?

RAF

... ...

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When is it 'going too far'?

by nekone041 in

i'm new to the forum (in fact, i just joined about 10 minutes before starting this post), and am a new jw (i began learning and attending meetings since about november of '06).

i have a question involving my girlfriend and i, and i'm hoping to find a moral answer.

my girlfriend and i fell in love two summers ago, and we're still pretty young (we're turning 17 this year).

RAF

errr ... nothing to add ...

well maybe if you don't want to really get in trouble right now (think about condoms and pills) because for a young couple like you having a kid right now wouldn't be the best that can happen in the first years (sharing couple time, studying ... whatever).

ah ... and if you love her and she love's you were is the sin? you are not playing game with her? Mariage is a costume before even in the bible they were saying the Male took a Female ... David had 800 concubines (why wasn't it a sin - because he was taking care of them - financially I guess LOL ...)

Just be honest, don't play game.

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