Sorry, but I still get pissed when I read scientist calculating infinate varibles. Last time I checked infinity was as good as absolute zero in terms. The diffrence being infinity means we know something exists though not how much. Zero means it does not exist at all period. Though argubly the anwser is the same IDK.
VxI=R If
If V is 5.
What is I or R for that matter.
What are you talking about? Scientist calculating infinate variables? What is that ? what means infinate in your sentences?
a scientist do not try to calculate if it's not needed or if he don't find out a value even just a hint about this value as valuable, a mathematician neither about infinate decimales (Pi for instance being 2.14 is good enough to do what we need to do with it instead of 2.139................)
Now your example does not talk about infinite it talks about UNKNOWN (AGAIN - infinite possibilities if you want - AS UNKNOW for UNPROVABLE AS ABSOLUTE).
This example is not about infinty but unknow in mathematic (algebrically put) an algebrically too (of course) there is no way to find out ... in this case for instance you need the precise value of at least two variables ... otherwise you have an infinity of possibilities for being totally UNKNOW.
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78UNDENIABLE LOGIC. Some cherish it while others dismiss it. Which are you?
by nicolaou inthere are so many ways to get into this topic; homeopathy, astrology, feng shui, alien abductions, seances and so on ad nauseum but let's pick a simple one - mathematics.
do you accept the undeniable logic that 1+1 must always equal 2?.
i cannot conceive of a situation where 1+1=3 but there was a time when i did!
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Describe the Perfect Woman or Man....
by Dragonlady76 inok after the serena williams thread and a few others that focus on looks i want to know what your idea of perfection in the opposite or same sex is.. i like muscular men with a full head of hair, i love classic features like a strong nose and jaw.. i also find blond blue eyed men sexy (don't ask me why).
i don't like that are to thin, nice teeth and soft eyes.. ok now it's your turn.. .
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Describe the Perfect Woman or Man....
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Admiting Mistakes/Poor Judgements?
by choosing life indo you find it hard to admit mistakes oe even just incidents of poor judgements on your part?
most of the time i do not have trouble, but occassionally i am more reluctant.
what makes it so important to us, that we become stubborn and refuse to bend?.
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I still understand the dilemna of admitting mistakes, but I realize it is time to just let them be. What about you?
Me too ... because it is way more simple (why bothering to refute, denying, lying, ... whatever) I mean if there is energy to wast its better to put it into something positive.
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UNDENIABLE LOGIC. Some cherish it while others dismiss it. Which are you?
by nicolaou inthere are so many ways to get into this topic; homeopathy, astrology, feng shui, alien abductions, seances and so on ad nauseum but let's pick a simple one - mathematics.
do you accept the undeniable logic that 1+1 must always equal 2?.
i cannot conceive of a situation where 1+1=3 but there was a time when i did!
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RAF: Sometimes I can be really thick! Reading one of your earlier posts just made me realise that you are French Baby Face! Cool! I missed you but you were here all the time! Why the name change?
Well it took time ... No I haven't been always here ... but when I wanted to share some times here I had a problem to log on ... I give up a few times for a monthe or so and ... (well it's all written on RAF's profile).
Shawn (and 5go) !
About a lot of questions (not mathematical) from what do you state that the premise is true? (like something that even scientists can state as true or not like is there a God which would ask to first define God - maybe you know more than them? you must wonder at least if you know more than them NO? And since you don't know there are premises that you just can't state anything about - and the logic is then to keep it as UNKNOW) otherwise it's NOT LOGIC it's a personnal feeling or value or postulate (related to your own experience).
Actually shawn and 5go you were off topic (with your examples with numbers) we are not talking aboutmathematic(mathematic is about counting nothing more nothing less it'svery precise and each valueeven if stated algebrically as X or Y or P will be the same in the all process of the operation concerned even if P and X are equal or not, but you know it for sure since we are talking about mathematical value).
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UNDENIABLE LOGIC. Some cherish it while others dismiss it. Which are you?
by nicolaou inthere are so many ways to get into this topic; homeopathy, astrology, feng shui, alien abductions, seances and so on ad nauseum but let's pick a simple one - mathematics.
do you accept the undeniable logic that 1+1 must always equal 2?.
i cannot conceive of a situation where 1+1=3 but there was a time when i did!
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All X,s are blue
P is an X
Therefore P is blueThis is LOGIC ONLY when you WHEN kNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT X and P to compare them as being EQUAL IN THE MATTER - since all X are BLUE from where do you state that P is an X? since P is not X.
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I'm starting my degree YAY
by free2think ini just wanted to share my good news.
i just registered for my degree, i start in oct, im so excited..
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Go girl !!!
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What is Your Scariest Experience in Life?
by R.F. ini'd have to say mine was when i was at the wee age of 8.. my siblings and i were out swimming with some friends and their parents.
what i remember mostly was that i got seperated very quickly from the rest of the group and drifted into the deeper end.
i found it getting more and more difficult to swim with each passing second.
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Flying (against my will)
Editted to add : and no it was not supernatural
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UNDENIABLE LOGIC. Some cherish it while others dismiss it. Which are you?
by nicolaou inthere are so many ways to get into this topic; homeopathy, astrology, feng shui, alien abductions, seances and so on ad nauseum but let's pick a simple one - mathematics.
do you accept the undeniable logic that 1+1 must always equal 2?.
i cannot conceive of a situation where 1+1=3 but there was a time when i did!
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Oh my Awakened07 ... (Ooops - I'mSORRY - yeah I really feel that something had been lost in the translation on my side) but at least your view on logic is very clear to me now (thanks for answering).
Shawn10538 get a clue of what you are talking about
logic have nothing to do with mathematique but algrebra which is not exactly the same thing (it have to include - any I don't know for sur - or I know something is effective but I don't know what it is exactly for instance) and since you miss the real value of the variable you are left with an X and if you give X a personnal value it is still a personnal value not logic. -
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UNDENIABLE LOGIC. Some cherish it while others dismiss it. Which are you?
by nicolaou inthere are so many ways to get into this topic; homeopathy, astrology, feng shui, alien abductions, seances and so on ad nauseum but let's pick a simple one - mathematics.
do you accept the undeniable logic that 1+1 must always equal 2?.
i cannot conceive of a situation where 1+1=3 but there was a time when i did!
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are you talking about logic or religion nor specific beliefs here? why the need to mixe everything is that logic?
you want to talk about logic or you want to argue about why you don't want to believe in something in particular (I insiste on particular because of all the examples you've took).
and YES of course logic is not about willing ... WE ALL KNOW THAT (or it's just stupid to just want to believe that's not logic - nothing to deny here) ... So now if you stay logic (check the definition in a dictionnary) can you answer this question (first read yourself back) and now tell me : what was your point exactly ? ...
logic is not about focusing or excluding (from one point of view - here the theology you know about or focus on), logic is about taking everything you can into consideration ... and while I read everywhere I want (just like you probably do) I've read a lot of stuff JUST here (so it's available to aknoledged - how many differents kind of beliefs did you took into consideration here to apply any reasonning to conclude this or that as just I THINK IT'S BULLS or just well I DON'T KNOW - and since you don't know, what is your logic exactly and what can you get out of this but that you don't know) how much kind of faiths and beliefs did you take into condiration in your reasoning here?
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UNDENIABLE LOGIC. Some cherish it while others dismiss it. Which are you?
by nicolaou inthere are so many ways to get into this topic; homeopathy, astrology, feng shui, alien abductions, seances and so on ad nauseum but let's pick a simple one - mathematics.
do you accept the undeniable logic that 1+1 must always equal 2?.
i cannot conceive of a situation where 1+1=3 but there was a time when i did!
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Also still about the logic even mathematical it still depends on what you are talking about :
So that when even 1+1 is not always equal to 3 it depends of what means each 1 and what the result is about (wants to demonstrate) ... if each 1 is a human being (but one is a man and the other one is a woman) and if the result wants to demonstrate how much kids they can have together ... the result is X (= whatever depends on which couple) - that pure logic and still mathematical (but as you can see the number can't always be the same).