What about a left handed cigarette? I smoke them occasionally.
I'm blaming my cat. She has so much fun w/ the cat nip; I wanted to see what the big deal was. Damn pussy!
sweetFACE
people usually get addicted to cigarettes when they are children.
the state does nothing or pretends and puts on a show.
ai think that the sate is gulty of child abuse and that it is the duty and responsibility of those in power to protect children from this deadly addiction.
What about a left handed cigarette? I smoke them occasionally.
I'm blaming my cat. She has so much fun w/ the cat nip; I wanted to see what the big deal was. Damn pussy!
sweetFACE
"whenever i watch tv and see those poor starving kids .
all over the world, i can't help but cry.
i mean i'd love .
"We are ready for an unforeseen event that
may or may not occur."
Our whole God damn lives!
Thanks for the thread, buddy. I needed the laughs tonight.
sweetFACE
Great I can see another thread that sweetface will start!
Excuse me? Here I was relaxing after an intense spinning class and you start spreading rumors about me. You hurt me kerj, you hurt me deep just now...sniff, sniff.
BTW, my thread was completely legit. I was uncomfortable in a massage session. The mocking thread was rude, hurtful, and completely inappropriate. I have yet to get an apology!
http://download.yousendit.com/e2916bb317a77989.
anyway, i've found that i can't bring myself to press them when they are so nice and respectful.
and i think the letter writing thing is just a way to delay the process..
At least this guy didn't stammer around like he didn't even know what a Bible is.
when it comes to the society, are they to blame for the control they use upon the members, or is it the peoples fault?
should we blame the society for tricking people?
or is it the people that let themselves be tricked?
Yes the individual holds responsibility for their own adult choices, however, that's on the assumption that the individual has learned the tools of critical thinking, has learned the value of their own worth. Something no jw lifer was ever taught! I do not think any of us can look at someone who has grown up life long in it and say, well they must be an idiot, I see it, why can't they?
Oh sweetstuff, all of my comments, just like bigd's question, are referring to people who were not raised as a JW. Like he mentioned, we had no choice and we didn't learn the critical thinking skills needed to make such a decision. However, due to being the kick ass, intelligent chicks that we are, we were able to decifer what we thought was right and wrong. Everyone on this board should be commended for that, whether they grew up as a JW or became one later in life. It's what we are doing NOW that matters.
when it comes to the society, are they to blame for the control they use upon the members, or is it the peoples fault?
should we blame the society for tricking people?
or is it the people that let themselves be tricked?
The society misleads, people choose to be mislead
The Org misleads because they have supposedly 6.7 million people who will believe every single word they say w/o questioning it. We all have a brain; it's up to each INDIVIDUAL as to whether or not it will be used.
when it comes to the society, are they to blame for the control they use upon the members, or is it the peoples fault?
should we blame the society for tricking people?
or is it the people that let themselves be tricked?
it's all about the pay out
Why do you think it took me a good 10 years to fade? I still wanted eternal life. I think in 30 years I probably prayed a total of about 10 times. I didn't care about or love this being called Jehovah.
when it comes to the society, are they to blame for the control they use upon the members, or is it the peoples fault?
should we blame the society for tricking people?
or is it the people that let themselves be tricked?
without the members, the org. is powerless to do anything
I think you summed it up best in your last sentence, dear. Just like an abusive spouse or children who live at home until they are 40; people are going to behave in the manner in which they are permitted to behave.
i am writing because i am tired of people talking about rumours that they heard about dave madzay,he was the kindest , most intelligent man i ever new, yes he was df but only jehovah can judge him for things he did, no one else.he was an elder very high up in bethel who gave the most wonderful talks, helped many people,brought a lot of people into the truth and yet when he died not one jw attended his funeral.
how sad that a man who was so high up in bethel could be treated like this...........i was brought up in the truth until i was 15 , and turned away because of how dave was treated, even though dave had jehovah in his heart right up until his last breath and did everything he could do to be reinstated but sadly never was.........................i know i knew him
Perhaps someone could tell me why I find it a little difficult to comprehend that a brother looking after the service desk in a branch office would do the above, even "occasionally".
Maybe that's why he was DF'd. He, like Ray Franz, didn't like service. But, we shall never know. Those who apparently know why he was DF'd only come here to say our speculations are wrong then call us demons and hi-tail it out of here. Sort of like how I ask my family questions about JW doctrines and they just get mad and ask me why I need to question "the truth". I have yet to get one god damn answer from anyone!!!!
to everyone looking at these pages you are all demonic and will be judged when jehovahs day is near dont leave it to late you sinners of satan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I had to go back to the post history of this threads OP to see what the big deal was.
I am writing because i am tired of people talking about rumours that they heard about Dave Madzay,he was the kindest , most intelligent man I ever new, yes he was df but only jehovah can judge him for things he did, no one else.He was an elder very high up in bethel who gave the most wonderful talks, helped many people,brought a lot of people into the truth and yet when he died not one jw attended his funeral. How sad that a man who was so high up in bethel could be treated like this...........I was brought up in the truth until I was 15 , and turned away because of how Dave was treated, even though Dave had jehovah in his heart right up until his last breath and did everything he could do to be reinstated but sadly never was.........................I know I knew him
First off, she explains that he was DF'd, but only Jehovah can judge him, yet she starts this thread to judge every other poster on this board. Second, she mentions that not one JW attended his funeral...well HELLO...if he was DF'd, then NO, not one would attend the funeral. Third, she says that she turned away because of how the guy was treated. How many here turned away because of how they PERSONALLY were treated?
Not one person on either of the threads said one negative thing about Dave Madzay. Most were questions as to who he was and what happened. She avoided every question asked and only came back w/ biting remarks and called everyone here demonic. I say good riddance!
P.S. BFD, honey...I was just playing along w/ the thread. I couldnt say WAC, cause he left...sniff, sniff. You know you're not going to hell. Jesus (and Crissy) loves you!