Posts by jamiebowers

Soe fear is normal. It's what keeps people going to work and paying their ills instead of being a beach bum or something. But fear of expressing your thoughts or having your own views at the expense of keeping family and friends is abnormal. People who care about you are suppsed to stick with you, not abandon you at the first sign of "trouble".

Although I've lost my mother, (probably forever, since she's shunned me for almost 24 years), and my brother, (who shunned me for 20 years until he left the borg), being df'd was the best thing that ever happened to me. It freed me to develop real friendshps, re-establish relationships with "worldly" relatives, obtain a college degree, and have a loving, normal family. I wish the best for you as you pursue freeom from fear.

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Thinking about loosing my friends ....

by Dudu in

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i think the harddest part of all this process of fading is losing friends .... ive been jw all my life and my all my close friends are jw ... im sad.

jamiebowers

You're not losing much. Once you develop real friendships, you will see that they're not as conditional as jw friendships. For example, my best friend is a born again Christian; I am not. She's a Republican; I am a Democrat. We have huge fundamental differences, but we are still friends. She has made major life decisions with which I disagreed, but I stood by her when it all went to hell. When my husband went into cardiac arrest, she was the first person I called after 911 and his kids. I was in shock while getting ready to follow the ambulance to the hospital and couldn't even function enough to put on my shoes. She did it for me and led me by the hand like a child, got me in the van and drove me to the hospital. She spent part of Thanksgiving Day in the hospital with us and had a plate waiting for me when I got home. Good or bad, right or wrong, we've always been there for each other, and I've only known this woman for eight years.

Recently she was dagnosed with stage four ovarian cancer. It is terminal, and my heart broke when I learned how dire her situation is. But she's requested no tears being shed for her. So despite the fact that I come apart at the seams on the inside, when I see her or talk to her on the phone, I put on a brave face and never let her know just how frightened and anguished I am. Like I said, good or bad, right or wrong, she deserves as much, because she truly is my friend.

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Are they really that weak willed?

by jean-luc picard in

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mr falcons thread on jw partys made me think about my new family's get togethers.. once or twice a year, we have a get together/picnic ( around 40 or 50 mostly family ).. we drink quite a bit of wine/ pernod ( our wives or 'sometimes husbands) drive home ).

i have never heard crude talk.

people sware a bit, but in an amusing kind of way.

jamiebowers

The rank and file are driven by fear of reproach and a false sense of superiority when it comes to "bad association". The Watchtower's motivation, however, is to isolate and dominate the rank and file.

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Do more you slacker from July KM

by life is to short in

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they still give my husband km for me.

i truly do not know why so i was flipping through the july one and it made me so mad, another example of us not doing enough.. "nelena, who is 19 years old and lives in bulgaria, had two desires-to be baptized and to auxiliary pioneer.

however, she suffers from hereditary motor and sensory neuropathy, which for the moment is incurable.

jamiebowers

LITS, I absolutely love you!

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Punkofnice has his own facebook page

by punkofnice in

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apostafriends welcome!!!.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002619536657.

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jamiebowers

Sent you a request.

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Still Amazed to Have Escaped

by leavingwt in

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i escaped the wt more than three years ago.

yet, even today, i'm still amazed, surprised and thankful that i got out.

it's easy for me to imagine having never getting the information i needed to make a clean break.

jamiebowers

I consider myself very foturnate to have gotten out alive.

Yes, I literally feel that way. Had I stayed in, I'm certain my jw husband would've gotten around to killing me as he was threatening to do. The difference for me, though, is the timing. There was no internet for the general public 24 years ago, so I left and remained a believer figuring I'd rather die a quick death at Armageddon than a torturous one at the hands of someone who claimed to love me and Jehovah.

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Cult Classic

by jamiebowers in

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please check your pms.

evertyhing in the message is on the subject line, so you won't have to try to open the message 100 times..

jamiebowers

You got me Jamie. I saw the title and I thought it was on something about cults. LOL ADD is so much fun. Totally ADD

Ha, ha, Totally ADD! I do stuff like tha all the time; mostly because I misread words, because I'm too stubborn to put on my reading glasses.

wow it now works!!! thanksFS

What Found Sheep...pms weren't working for you? Usually I get an error message the first time I click on a pm, but then if I hit the back arrow button andrefresh the page, I can get to it.

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VERY depressed

by youngbro in

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i have severe clinical depression and right now, for whatever reason it is really acting up....

jamiebowers

Check your pms.