Stand your ground. Two-thirds of jw young people leave the cult, so some of your kids and grandkids may be joining you soon. I'll try to find some ex-jw friends from WI on Facebook tomorrow.
jamiebowers
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"please sign in" was all mom said to me and my boys at her sisters funeral yesterday at the kindom hall
by oompa inmy dad never once looked at me...i went even though they did not come to the door when i went to tell her i was sorry about her sister...that i had heard through the grapvine her sister had died...they did not even ccall me...and they did not answer the phone when i left the message asking for the time and place of the funeral unless they did not want us to attend...and they did not call....but we all decided to go anyway and im glad we did....but it was surreal...i will share more later.
and i have a close friend nearby dfd about four years ago whose dad is dying and wont hardly ever talk to her... he does a bit but not her mom....neither does robert7s mom talk at all to him and yes it causes pain...but i think i am finally close to healing that last part of mine......oompa.
funny but just realized that the above two cases both people are recognizd as a son or daughter important enough to shun like me...but we dont get shunned like dfd and apostate sons at the funeral...just another attendee...wow.
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jamiebowers
Other than saying how sorry I am, the only other thing I can tell you is that you'll get used to it. My jw mom has shunned me for 24 years, and as cruel as it sounds, I very seldom think about her.
I heard of a woman in my old congregation who had three or four adult children, all of whom left the cult, and one died in a car accident by the time she passed away. I looked up her obituary on line, and the only survivor listed was her elder husband. Not one of her kids, even the one who proceeded her in death, or any of her grandchildren were mentioned. It's like two generations of her family never existed.
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intro
by dingo1 ini have commented a few times so i figure ill introduce myself.
sorry if this is under the wrong topic, i dont as i dont participate in any other forums.
i have lurked for a while.
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jamiebowers
Welcome! It was sounding like you are a breath of fresh air until you told that fart story, LOL!
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jamiebowers
I predict that in five years or so you'll be posting here lamenting how you've learned the truth about the "truth" and have to either put up with it or lose all your jw family and friends. Hopefully you won't be married with children by then....HEAVY sigh.
3. I think family's important, so is marriage. I think it's good to have a decent relationship and get married. Call me old fashioned. I mean if people just want to be 'bf and gf' that's cool too, but marriage is a beautiful thing I respect. Even though my parents split I support the institution of marriage according to the JWs.
This is what attracted me to the jws. I had a terribly abusive childhood and wanted so much to have a happy family life. Unfortunately, I married a jw man who was dangerously abusive and wound up df'd for events surrounding my divorcing him. What exactly did you think of the Selma/Steve situation in the Watchtower mag a while back?
4. .JW's are clean, decent people. They dress well, teach their childrens good behavior. You may call it robotic but it's a protection against bad behavior to have a 'certian kind' of upbringing.
JWs are as clean and decent as much as the Watch Tower allows them to be. Clean and decent people do not condone, overlook and hide child sex abuse and domestic violence. Yet jws are required to so, because of the organization's misconstrued idea of the two witness rule. Haven't you read about the Candace Conti verdict?
5. I like that so many people of different backgrounds can co-exist in worship. The number of interacial babies/marriages is ridiculous. I don't think people know this. I know you'll laugh at me or try to disprove me with this, but I grew up in it, been in more than one congregation, and it's true. So I respect that the power of faith can triump over hate.
"Worldly" people engage in bi-racial relationships too. And the society has a terrible record on racism. Do you know that it used to be taught that black people would become white in the so-called new system, so that they could be perfect too? And if there is really such a wonderful racial brotherhood, why is there only one non-white person on the governing body?
Why not put a little research into this life changing decision? There are too many hidden agendas and rules in the jw organization. If you don't figure that out for yourself by researching before baptism, it will hit you like a ton of bricks at some point as you live the jw life.
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How important are birthdays?
by Disillusioned Lost-Lamb inextremely, cause it's mine!.
go shorty it's my birthday.
gonna party like it's my birthday.
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jamiebowers
I haven't been on JWN in a few days, so I missed it. Happy belated birthday, because it is important!
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Canadian Newspaper Willing to Cover Watchtower Child Abuse Issue
by headisspinning ini have been in touch with a canadian reporter for a major newspaper.
she is interested in covering the candace conti story but needs to make it relevant to canadians.
so, she has asked if there is a canadian victim of child abuse who would be willing to speak with her.
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jamiebowers
What are the names of the two liitle sisters that were molested by their stepdad in Canada? He's in prison now. I'll try to find their names.
Edited o add: Never mind...the girls I was thinking of are from New Hampshire.
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Sparlock worked his magic this weekend!
by 00DAD inyes it's true, i got to experience first hand the awesome magic powers of sparlock, the warrior wizard!tm.
this last weekend a friend of mine asked me if i could take him to the mechanic's to pick up his car after being serviced.
now this friend of mine (who is not and has never been a jw) is the the one and only friend that i've remained in constant contact with through the dark quarter century of my life when i was a witness.
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jamiebowers
Sparlock works in mysterious ways!!!!!!!!!!!
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Main article on child abuse on watchtower.org right now
by InquiryMan inthey have chosen to highlight this article on their website:.
http://www.watchtower.org/e/200710/article_01.htm.
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jamiebowers
http://www.watchtower.org/e/200710/article_01.htm
Edited to add: I tried reading this drivel but couldn't make it through the second article. Why don't these dirty bastards just make a public confession of their failed policies, apologize to the victims and change their wicked ways? It seems to me, that instead, they are setting the parents up to take the blame when the shit starts raining down on the Watch Tower. I'm also bothered by the fact that they're still recommending that great teacher book. If I correctly recall, many jw parents took offense, because it's worded in a way that makes it seem kids are giving into Satan by being molested.
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Why are religious people scared of atheists?
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[endif]just read bublegum's post and was going to post there but realised it would be off topic.. it got me thinking - as did some of the other atheist threads - why are religious people scared or atheists?
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jamiebowers
Is this a fact or did you make this a fact based on a few examples from obesrving both athiests and believers?
I don't know all born again Christians or all atheists, so of course it's based on some examples in my life. And I wrote about my experience and didn't state it as fact. That being said, however, there are recent studies that indicate as a whole, atheists are more compassionate, charitable, intelligent, and moral than the faithful.
http://www.livescience.com/20005-atheists-motivated-compassion.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100224132655.htm
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Help please, My local newspaper, who do you contact?
by jam ina few years ago i sent information about the.
abuse in the wt organization (shunning, molestation,etc.)..
i sent it to the editor for the religious section.
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jamiebowers
If I'm not mistaken, the frozen assets thing is standard and can be lifted if the defendants post a bond one a half times the judgment.