Posts by jamiebowers

"The bottom line is that it is unscriptural to disfellowship someone at the mouth of one witness. Surely God's word should take precedent over the thinking of imperfect men. Thus Jehovah's Witnesses apply the two witness rule using both reason and logic. To do otherwise would be to deny the Bible."

Third Witness conveniently avoids the "being in submission to superior authorities" thing, doesn't he? I don't give a damn if the Watch Tower df's accused child molesters. What I do care about is that this filthy organization doesn't report the accusations to law enforcement.

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Cutting the emotional ties with family

by feenx in

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it's been quite a while since i posted here... so hello everyboday!.

this time of year is always an interesting one for me emotionally.

my parents anniversary, which we all know was the one thing anyone ever celebrated, is two days after my birthday.

jamiebowers

Despite having grown into an amazing person, being happy in life, becoming more spiritual than I ever would have inside the organization... I still find myself with pain over this unmovable barrier between myself and my family. And I resent their inability, or unwillingness, to move around it. Which then makes me feel like a bit of a hypocrite, because neither will I.

First off, Feenx, you are not a hypocrite! Your prents remain victims of mind control, and you do not. Please read Scully's post several times. She made a lot of good points.

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Do any of you all "Travel" for work?

by dreamgolfer in

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would make for getting together to say hello and "stuff".

currently i travel in se usa up mid-atlantic area and to ne at times.

thanks and just "pm" me if you want to talk,.

jamiebowers

You may ge more response if you post dates and cities of your future travels in the "Members Only" section either under "Private Discussion & Support" or "Apostafests and Get-Togethers".

I'm in NE Ohio between Cleveland and Youngstown. You may be passing through this way while traveling from SE to NE. If so, let me know, and maybe we can do a meet-up.

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Do you agree with William Bowen's statement about the issue of Anonymous hacking?

by Iamallcool in

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the jw pedophile database would be an amazing thing to have, but to obtain it illegally would prevent it ever from being used as evidence and would hurt the case of many abuse survivors.

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jamiebowers

SBF, I read that too. Are you sure it was someone from Anonymous who wrote that? Anyone can post there...even I did.

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11-year-old niece was told by JW grandmother that she shouldn't play in band

by keyser soze in

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i haven't posted here in a while, but i thought this was worth mentioning, and i just wanted to vent about it.. my brother and sister-in-law, who are now divorced, bought my niece a clarinet about a year ago, so she could play in the band at school.

she loves it more than anything in the world.

one day last week, her grandmother found out about this and got all upset about it.

jamiebowers

Many of us are here because we used to be JW's. But how easy it is now to forget that we were slaves to the WT too at one time.

So don't blame the grandmother. She may care a lot for the girl. However, the WT religion has filled her with all this nonsense and she is passing it on,

just as many of US may have done in the past.

Don't judge the Witness, one day she may even break free. Judge the religion and its leaders ONLY, IMHO.

Shepherd, I blame the grandmother, because she overstepped her bounds and failed to observe her own jw rules. Parents are to be in charge of their children, so if she had a problem with her grandchild participating in a school band, she should've talked to her own daughter, the mother of the child. Instead, she chose to bully a little girl. Even if she wasn't a jw, that would've been the wrong thing to do.

I've encouraged him to fight for joint custody, at the very least. But he's trying to keep things as amicable as possible. He's also not in a great position

financially, which is why he's staying with me.

And while he has serious issues with the elders, and no longer attends meetings, he is far more sympathetic to the WT than I am. But I'm working on

him...

What a sad state of affairs....I certainly don't envy you! It's difficult enough to help a Watch Tower sympathizer to learn the truth about the "truth", but it must be far more frustrating when a kid is involved. There are so many ex and exiting jws who feel unworthy to raise their own children. This cult just boils my blood!

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11-year-old niece was told by JW grandmother that she shouldn't play in band

by keyser soze in

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i haven't posted here in a while, but i thought this was worth mentioning, and i just wanted to vent about it.. my brother and sister-in-law, who are now divorced, bought my niece a clarinet about a year ago, so she could play in the band at school.

she loves it more than anything in the world.

one day last week, her grandmother found out about this and got all upset about it.

jamiebowers

My fear is that the elders will find out and try to guilt her mom into forcing her to quit. They don't have any hold over my brother. He lives with me, and doesn't attend meetings anymore. But my ex-sister-in-law wants badly to be reinstated. She's a very co-dependent person, and misses her family and friends.

Keyser, that's why, if he doesn't already have it, your brother needs to go back to court for decision making rights regarding educational and medical dissues for his daughter. In the meantime, grandma should be told to butt out, and if she doesn't, the custody agreement can be modified to forbid all contact with the old bitch.

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A thread for those who have no support system or a place to go due to shunning.

by ohiocowboy in

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reading the recent thread about the young lady who just ended her life got me thinking that maybe there could be a thread that is easily accessible to anyone who may need help due to homelessness from losing their families and friends to shunning.

too often i hear stories about people who have lost everything, and have no where to go, and at the same time having no type of support system.

unfortunately there are some who are so lost that they feel that there are no options besides taking their own life.. i think that a website that matches people in need to others who can help in some way would be a great idea.

jamiebowers

Balaamsass, is this what you're talking about? http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/HUD?src=/topics/grants

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Thought you all would get a kick out of this...

by garyneal in

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recipe for an ifb cult leader:.

1 multi-dose vial of love bombing.

2 cups of megalomania.

jamiebowers

Sad, but very much like the Watch Tower.