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  The Problem with FAMILY

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i woke up early this morning.

  i had a dream that my mother had cut-me-off.

  it was a painful dream for me...but it was only a dream.

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  jamiebowers

  My husband and I were just talking about this today. My jw mom has shunned me now for 26 years. The few conversations we've had were on the phone and involved my questions about family medical history and her hospitalization, (for which she refused to give me any information).

  In the unlikely event that she would ever leave the Watchtower Cult and begged for forgiveness for the shunning, and even the abuse and dysfunction that she and her husband heaped on my brother and me as children, I may be able to be civil to her, but I could never trust her.

  Quite frankly I don't miss her company, because our lives are so different. It would be difficult to have a relationship with her being a jw or not being a jw. The only thing I miss is having a normal mother, but there have been several older women throughout the years who have gladly taken her place.

  It seems to me that even those who are part of a close jw family don't have relatives with your best interest at heart. Limiting a person's choices in career, education, medical decisions, and sexuality doesn't seem very loving to me.
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  Dumb ass cultish elders

  by Crazyguy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok so i'm not officaily da'd as of yet and the elders (2) come over to my house and want to talk with my wife.

  so i'm thinking there looking for more info on me and ask her to go sit with them in their car since there was no place for privacy at my house.

  then a few minutes later my wife calls me and asks me to meet them out at the car and they drive around and i get in.

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  jamiebowers

  I agree with everyone else here who says to forbid the elders from meeting with your wife without you. And who did the elders think molested your daughter...you, or is there a child molester in the congregation that no one else knows about?
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  Mood Music: New Year's Eve version

  by valkyrie in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  it's 18:00 here, the evening is young - but promising.. if you listen to music, to get you in a party or socializing mood, before going out on nye, please share it here.

  i am currently house-bound, but i would love to hear the festivities, as they kick off!

  [i live near one of the favourite nye fireworks locales in my city - a peaky park - so i'm fated to hear the noise later on.

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  jamiebowers

  Sorry this is a day late, but this song always makes me happy and in the partying mood.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SOryJvTAGs
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  Kim's call to HQ's...

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xltqvpy6i0q.

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  jamiebowers

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  "You need to witness to her about Christmas"

  by DS211 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well thats what my wife said when my grandma stopped by for a visit and invited us to hang out with them christmas eve.

  after she left, my wife said i needed to witness to her and remind her that we do nkt celebrate it and that it is the worst holiday to celebrate (actually halloween is lol).

  i felt this wasnt the time to argue so i decided to tell her i would look into that.

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  jamiebowers

  Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.

  Colossians 2:16

  http://biblehub.com/colossians/2-16.htm
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  NNew member...1st post

  by Oh Gawd in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  new guy here so i thought i would make a brief introduction.. my exposure to the jw's is indirect, as i have never been a member; however my wife of 22 years grew up in a jw household.

  her dad is the grand-pooba or whatever level of "elder" you call it for his kh.

  her mom, sister, brother, and their spouses all died in the wool witnesses.

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  jamiebowers

  Welcome to JWN! I have seen and heard about jws similar to your inlaws throughout the years. And it's much easier to get away with things when you have money, whether it's within the jws or elsewhere.

  I’ve even told them, because I love poking them in the eye from time to time, that if they spent as much time thinking about how illogical and unfounded the whole concept of religion is as they do trying to be good, yet naughty, JW’s their lives would be infinitely less complicated and they wouldn’t carry around so much guilt.

  You're correct about this in the rational sense, but something irational has a hold on them, be it brainwashing, tradition, or fear of losing the conditional relationships that being in a cult entails.
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  Planning the xmas party-suggestions needed

  by TweetieBird in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am in charge of planning the resident xmas party (300 apartments that i manage) and about 100 to 150 residents will be there.. i already have a musician lined up but need ideas for food, theme, etc.

  $400 budget for food, etc.

  any ideas?

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  jamiebowers

  Pasta is cheap and easy to make. If you're a member of Sam's Club you can get ready made meatballs for $12 a six pound bag. Turkeys and hams will be on sale all season, and all you have to do is stick them in the oven or a roaster. Five-pound bags of frozen green beans are cheap at Sam's, so you can make green bean casserole. Add stuffing to it for bulk. Add a tossed salad, (big bags of salad mix also at Sam's), rolls, and a few ready made desserts or and a sheet cake. Have coffee, ice tea, and punch and/or kool aid if kids will be there.

  If you do go to Sam's, get Chinette plates, Member's Mark napkins, Red cups, and plastic silverware by the case. $400 is plenty to feed 100 to 150 people.
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  Returning to jwn

  by chellechellereturns in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i used to be a member both here and jwd before but have been absent for many years.

  i was known as chellechelle before.

  ugh life has changed a lot in those years.

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  jamiebowers

  Please avail yourself of all of the social programs that are available in your area, including counseling. Things are tough now, but you can determine your future. Get a skill or education, so you'll always be indepenent. Good luck to you!
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  Categories of Former Jehovah's Witnesses

  by neverendingjourney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was never disfellowshipped, but it's been about 10 years since i was an active jw.

  i've made an occasional meeting or half-day at an assembly here or there, strictly at the behest of family (maybe once a year), but i'm completely disconnected.

  more importantly, mentally i'm 100% free.. we all have a tendency to project our views and beliefs onto others, and tending to believe that other former jws share our views is no different.

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  jamiebowers

  Great thread! I was in Group 4. I'm wondering if your Facebook messages to the two ex-jws went to the mail box that most peole don't know to check. I'm not sure how it works, but I've read FB posts of people apologizing for not responding to mesages, because they just discovered an inbox different than the message inbox.
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  Lying to children

  by jwfacts in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  zac's first tooth just fell out, and so people are telling him that the tooth fairy will come with money.

  zac asked me if the tooth fairy is real.

  i am at a loss as to what to say.

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  jamiebowers

  If the Tooth Fairy thing really bothers you, then tell your son the truth. What you say is not as important as how you say it. Why not just tell him that the Tooth Fairy story is the same as any fairytale, but it would be so much fun to pretend that it's real? The leave the money under his pillow, and let him have fun.