Apostates are annointed. Ok, there have been some funny things said about the possible announcements, but this kind of s**t really scares me. My mom is still in.
jamiebowers
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huge announcement after the Watchtower study on the 27 of April?
by Dogpatch inthere will be a huge announcement after the watchtower study on the 27 of april.. for what it's worth, this was just sent to me anonymously.. randy.
www.freeminds.org.
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Pieces of the puzzle from a pedophile's past
by JimmyPage ini've researched a lot of topics concerning wt history but i have to admit that the pedophile thing hasn't been one of them.
however, check this out... i grew up with a guy i'll call "dudley".
according to an elder "dudley" molested a younger guy in the congregation named "tom".
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jamiebowers
Think about the latest case in the news coming out of Murietta, CA. The two little girls who were molested by their jw friend's father told their mother what happened. The mother told the elders, and a jc was formed. The pervert confessed to the elders. Did the mother or the elders go to the police? No, one of the girl's teachers reported a suspicison when she was asked by the mother to keep the pervert away from her kids. Was the pervert even df'd? I haven't read anywhere that said he was, but instead the elders were complicit with the pervert's defense attorney when trying to claim clergy privilege. And when forced to testify, it sounded halted and hesitant to me. Read an excerpt of their testimony and see what you think:
Despite the defense's contention that the elders' statements are confidential and protected by the penitent-clergy privilege, the two men testified that during a religious inquiry in 2006, defendant Gilbert Simental said he touched the two sisters in a sexual manner. "I believe he stated that there were two separate occasions when he touched her on her body when she was sleeping," elder Andrew Sinay testified, referring to the younger girl. "He found her to have the covers pulled down and he went to cover her up. Apparently temptation struck at that moment and that's when he touched her."
Sinay and John Vaughn, a former elder, were given immunity by the district attorney's office, shielding them from any potential prosecution as a result of their testimony about Simental's statements, prosecutor Burke Strunsky said in court before either man testified. In his testimony, Sinay said he did not remember there being many differences between the two incidents involving the younger girl. The incident with the older girl was different because she was awake and resisted, Sinay said. "She basically told him not to do that and I believe he continued momentarily," Sinay testified. Prosecutor Strunsky asked Sinay about Simental's demeanor at the time. "It was extremely difficult for him," Sinay said. "Did he appear to be crying?" Strunsky asked. "Yes, initially, I believe," Sinay said. Clark questioned Sinay about his memory of the meetings he had with Simental. "Part of your job is to forget," Clark asked. "EvenGod does that," Sinay replied. "Is it fair to say you don't have a good recollection of what exactly Mr. Simental told you?" Clark asked. "I have a general memory. ... So no, I don't," Sinay replied. Unclear About Details Vaughn recalled that Simental admitted touching each girl only on one occasion. "Are you really able to recall the details?" Clark asked Vaughn. "I'm a little bit nervous ... and I want to be honest about the circumstances," Vaughn said. Vaughn said he remembered Simental telling him that he touched both girls once. "But you're not sure?" Clark said. "I just assured you it was one time," Vaughn said. Vaughn agreed that he did not remember the exact details of what Simental told him. During questioning by Strunsky, Vaughn said it was unclear why Simental touched the girls. "I think I remember him saying he did not know why he did it," Vaughn said. "But that he did admit that he did do it." Before the jury was brought into the courtroom, Sinay took the stand and made a statement to the court. He said it is not the practice of the Jehovah's Witnesses to cover up child maltreatment.
Apparently temptation struck at that moment and that's when he touched her." (when he was looking at an 8 or 9 year old girl?). "It was extremely difficult for him," (I wonder why he didn't have a comment about how difficult it was for those poor little girls). Vaughn agreed that he did not remember the exact details of what Simental told him
(give me a breakâexactly how forgettable is a confession to child molestation?).
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Interesting You Tube Video for Newbies
by jamiebowers inhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ufnk2edawiq&feature=email .
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This is Sickening--Found on Silent Lambs Website
by jamiebowers inhttp://www.silentlambs.org/amybcasesummation.htm .
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I Found this on YouTube--Maybe Some Want to Participate
by jamiebowers inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbpqlpgpb5m
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I took the red pill (with a cool, crisp glass of Fresca)
by Sebastian Melmoth ini am absolutely thrilled to find this site!
i just took the red pill of reality and all i can saw is wow!
i had no idea the borg was so hypocritical and twisted.
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jamiebowers
Yours is the funniest post I've read in a while. Good luck to you and hope to hear more from you soon. I would be very interested to hear more about your dad. It sounds like you inherited his sense of humor. Welcome, welcome, welcome!
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First Active JW lured in some help please....
by Tuesday ini posted a few days ago that i had started my series of "tough questions" for jehovah's witnesses.
shockingly so far i've only gotten positive comments.
today i got my first negative comment obviously from a witness.
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jamiebowers
I've watched all of the videos you've done so far and really wanted to comment on them. But since my youtube screen name is so evidently exjw, I didn't do so. I didn't want to chase away those who are still in. I seriously doubt that you will get answers to your questions, because the rank and file have no idea on how to answer them. But all is not lost. There are bound to be a few of the faithful who start really thinking about all you've had to say.
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If you could have your family back..... (Are JWs toxic to you?)
by Open mind inwould it be worth even being around jws from time to time?
i guess what i'm asking is this:.
is the whole jw outlook somewhat toxic to you?
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jamiebowers
After being out for a few years, I thought that being shunned was a blessing. There was no reason for argument with my mom about things that were important to me, ie: marriage outside of the jws, a college degree, community and political involvement, etc., because she refused to speak to me. In the 20 years that I've been out, I've spoken to my mom twice; both times were for medical information. The last time we talked a few years ago, she started crying and apologizing for things that happened during my childhood. When I responded in an empathetic way, she hurriedly ended the conversation. It must've seemed too much like a reconcilation to her.
Short of going back to the cult and giving up everything I've gained since being disfellowshipped, I would give almost anything to at least be able to talk to her. She is in her mid sixties, was on disablitiy and now back to work. I don't think any kind of retirement is in her future. I've heard through her wordly family that there have been some financial and health difficulties, none of which I can help her with, because she won't talk to me. She sounded so regretful and sad the last time we spoke. I have an irrational fear that there will be some kind of suicide pact within the organization, and I read boards like this everyday with an irrational hope that I will find some way to get her out.
This is a constant source of saddness for exjws. No, I don't find any jw toxic, but I do think their leadership is pure poison.
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What do you think fellow posters think of you?
by JH ini guess people think "photoshop" when they think of me.
yep, i love that.. oh, they also must think i have a screw loose .
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jamiebowers
The great thing about this board is that it doesn't matter what people think of you. You can express your opinion and not be tried, convicted and executed by a bunch of busybodies!
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Hubby s/w Mr. Flipper on the phone last night for about 1 1/2
by cognac inmr. flipper told him all this stuff about the whole pedophilia/ 1975 debacle, everything.
they talked for sooooo long... hubby really listened.. it started when i called them to talk about how to handle the elders.
then, i thought, hubby should know who i'm talking to.
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jamiebowers
Kudos to Mr. Flipper. If you ever regret your time in the cult, DON''T! You're using your experience to help people now.
Cognac, if the abuse issue really bothers your husband, why not have him read the personal experiences on the silentlambs.org website? The stories are eerily similar. That may make an impression on him. Also the articles on the current case in Murietta, CA. leads to many questions about the organization's true stance on child abuse. For instance, why was the case reported by a teacher of one of the victims? Why didn't the parents report it? Why didn't the elders report it? When the defense attorney of the accused tried to use clergy privalege, why didn't the WTB&TS object since there is no clergy in the organization?