So, I'll say it again; I told you so. JWD is the place for apostates to be. I'm so glad you're finally here.
jamiebowers
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Plastic Apostate on YouTube-Give the Guy Some Love
by jamiebowers inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8sedntad50.
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my story while listening to "the great gig in the sky" by Pink Floyd
by paranoid android inlooking back i realize that the way it was handled was probably the best of my experiences with committee meetings.
at this committee meeting, they asked me if i was disfellowshipped 3 months ago, i couldnt believe that!
" i asked him why the announcement hadnt been made and he said he didnt know.
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jamiebowers
I told you so. Welcome. Look for my pm to you.
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Did you read this: How disfellowshipped family members should be treated.
by Ianua inin the appendix of the new "keep yourselves in god's love"-book i found the following statements regarding contact to ex-jw-family members:.
what if a relative is disfellowshipped?
in such a case, the close bond between family members can pose a real test of loyalty.
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jamiebowers
11Extremephysicalabuse is another basis for separation. Suppose an unbelieving mate often gets drunk, becomes enraged, and causes the believer physical harm. (Proverbs 23:29-35) Through prayer and by displaying the fruitage of Jehovah’s spirit, the believer may be able to prevent such outbursts and make the situation endurable. But if the point is reached where the health and life of the abused mate actually are in jeopardy, separation would be allowable Scripturally. Again, congregation elders should look into charges of physical abuse when two Christians are involved in the troubled marriage, and disfellowshipping action may have to be taken.—Compare Galatians 5:19-21; Titus 1:7.
This certainly wasn't followed in my case. For 7 years elders in the 2 congregations that I attended simply encouraged me to be a better wife. I have read of many other cases where abused women were treated he same way.
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Donated blood for the very first time....
by Quirky1 inyup.
i donated my very first time.
wasn't bad at all.. i also get an extra day off work for doing so..
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jamiebowers
It is a very rewarding experience to donate life saving blood. The Red Cross won't allow me to donate, because I had jaundice from a bad gall bladder years ago. They asked that I never donate. But a private hospital allowed me to donate platelets. I don't know what the difference is.
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this and that
by Hortensia inremembered a jwism today - forefront.
isn't that redundant?
i always used to wonder about that - if you're at the fore, you're in front, aren't you?
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jamiebowers
I wonder if I'm the only person who finds Vern Yip's "Deserving Design" to be nauseating? Can't stand to watch it. So puke-making. Nancy Grace is pretty awful too. Can't stand her. Can't stand the commercial with the house saying "paint me."
We must be kindred spirits, because I hate all of those things too. I hope you and JK666 can go stargazing in the Indiana sky.
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The Friends Ain't So Friendly
by StAnn ini've been thinking.
a lot of posts i read here say things about how the jws are all victims; how people feel so sorry for them; how people believe that the jws they know are really good people who are trapped in a lie.
then i read a lot of other posts about the cruel things the jws do, like shunning, ignoring df'd people on the side of the road with a flat tire, refusing to be charitable to their fellow humans, delighting at the impending deaths of millions of people, and blaming all of their coldness and heartlessness on the fact that they're just following orders from the gb.
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jamiebowers
I have a JW brother (an elder) who is deep into geneaology. I've thought, "He's totally disinterested in the family that he has that is living unless they're JWs, but he's completely fascinated by the ones who are dead!" Since none of our ancestors were JWs, I don't know why he's so interested in learning about them.
Maybe he's thinking abouy meting them after the resurection
I think my mom stays in, because it's her only source of credibility.
Been raining here too. Going to bed in a minute,
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The Friends Ain't So Friendly
by StAnn ini've been thinking.
a lot of posts i read here say things about how the jws are all victims; how people feel so sorry for them; how people believe that the jws they know are really good people who are trapped in a lie.
then i read a lot of other posts about the cruel things the jws do, like shunning, ignoring df'd people on the side of the road with a flat tire, refusing to be charitable to their fellow humans, delighting at the impending deaths of millions of people, and blaming all of their coldness and heartlessness on the fact that they're just following orders from the gb.
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jamiebowers
You are probably right, but it's difficult to face it, because these are people we love.
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Plastic Apostate on YouTube-Give the Guy Some Love
by jamiebowers inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8sedntad50.
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jamiebowers
This guy is going to post on JWD soon. I can't wait to hear his whole story, if he can tell it. What a creative person!
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Plastic Apostate on YouTube-Give the Guy Some Love
by jamiebowers inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8sedntad50.
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jamiebowers
Video was removed and replaced with one of better quality per the maker. Here's the new and improved version:
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Convicted Molester Sentenced to 45 Years to Life (Simental in Murietta, CA)
by jamiebowers inhttp://www.pe.com/localnews/rivcounty/stories/pe_news_local_n_witness28.471157c.html.
part of what the prosecutor said: "this case makes a bold statement to any religious organization that we are not going to allow you to abuse confidentiality privileges in order to suppress the confessions of child molesters," said strunsky.
"the stakes are way too high.
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jamiebowers
I think this is just the tip of the iceberg in the Jehovah's Witness organization. I truly believe many more child abusers will be exposed as time goes on here. People are standing up for what's right and aren't going to take it anymore and remain silent. The more bastards like Simental get exposed ; the more convictions of this crime we will see. True it will take courage to expose it, but with a good support group these girls that had the courage to stand up against him will heal in time. But it will require a lifetime committment from her parents and friends to help these girls heal.
Mr. Flipper: I hope you are right about this case just being the tip of the iceberg for the WTB&TS and that people are standing up for what's right. Please note that the mother of the girls who were molested only reported it to the elders and not the police. The only reason the authorities became involved is because the mother told a teacher to keep that guy away from her kids. The teacher was suspicious and reported it to the police. In the meantime, the elders knew all about it and failed to report it to the authorities and even tried to fight testifying after the fact. It is also important to note that the elders were given immunity for their crimes in exchange for their testimony against the pedophile. And I wonder if the mother was df'd on the grounds of slander for opening her mouth to the teacher. If so, how much support do you think she'll be able to give those poor little girls?
How many more court cases do these evil bastards have to lose before they change their wicked ways? They settled a multi-million dollar civil suit last year, and finally the criminal courts are catching up and not allowing the cover ups that have been going on for years (all the way back to 1964 according to Barbara Anderson's legal documents). If/when it is brought to their attention, the rank and file jw, including my mother will simply believe it's not true.
IMHO, a battle has been won, but the war continues.