Posts by jamiebowers

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Fitting that it's USA's anniversary tomorrow and coming to my 2 year fade Anniversary

by dreamgolfer in

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i can't tell you how nice it is to have this forum to read, write and meet others that have been through the "ringer" so to speak.. i was living in england in 1995 when the first "tingle happened" upon reading the wt and the generations kwap (in elmer fud accent so i dont give my identity away).

but because of a terrible family situation and at the time looking down the road of being a single parent...i basically put it out of my mind and i "soldiered on" so to speak.. then that ill fated dc of a few years ago spurred me to think..."overlaping generations" hmmmmmm lets give that some consideration.. after doing my homework, finding out about the un involvement, silent lambs (i did know about) blood fractions (oh yeah) reading ray franz book, listenting to no college for the last time and then finding out how the $$$ collection really works for circuit assemblies, and what they did to the jw's in spain when they pulled up and moved out, plus the issues that seem to always be "redirected" i was really peeved.

jamiebowers

Happy Anniversary on your fade, and Happy 4th of July!!!!!!!!!! We're having a big party, as usual. About 100 people usually show up, but it may be smaller this year since it's mid-week.

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A fun break from yard work today...

by Rocky_Girl in

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i'm outside in the 90 heat doing landscaping with my neighbor/ friend.

two women in dresses, nylons, and heels walked carefully across the newly tilled dirt to get to us and start their presentation.. woman 1: we are talking with your neighbors about the increase in crime lately.

do you worry about your safety?.

jamiebowers

Oh, that's rich! You know that somewhere in the corners of those two ladies' minds, they're thinking about what was said.

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A Day In The Life

by jbeau504 in

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jamiebowers

I haven't forgotten you....just been really busy.

There's no reason for you to be in the dark about anything. This is the information age! Google Jehovah's Witnesses and child molesting, or Gilbert Simental, Candace Conti, silentlambs.org, or watchtowerdocuments.com . Is the Watch Tower the only religion with molestation cover ups? No, but why would you want to be part of any organization that is guilty of such widespread abuse? Check out the news reports. They're not just in the US. Canada, the UK, and Australia have all done programs about it.

when it comes to the actual JW doctrine, spiritually-speaking (which is what matters to me), when did you stop believing in it? Do any of you still believe in it? or anything?

I was a believer even after being df'd. But as the years went by, I could see holes in the Watch Tower doctrine. Take, for example, the blood issue. It was explained to me as a jw that when a person is too sick to eat, they are nourished through IVs and so getting a blood transfusion is eating blood. But then it dawned on me that a person would starve to death if only receiving blood through an IV. Other restrictions against the holidays aren't scriptural and are inconsistent.

Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. Col 2:16 English Standard Version

All of the Watch Tower's restrictions are based on Paganism, but many things have a Pagan origin that jws are permitted to use such as wedding rituals, pinatas, names of the days of the weeks and months, neckties, etc. Did you know that the original lipstick was made from prostitutes rubbing berries on their lips to let customers know that they were willing to perform oral sex? Think of all the righteous sisters you know who attend meetings and go door to door while wearing lipstick. Just as they're not advertising oral sex services, celebrating holidays today is not worshipping Pagan gods.

I lost all faith in the Bible when I learned tht the miracles of Jesus, (everything from the virgin birth to rising from the dead were all attribted to other gods even before Jesus's time. Then I found out that there are other books such as the Gospel of Mary Magdelane and Thomas that weren't included in the Bible. And, who, pray tell decided what books were to be includd in the Bible? It was the early Catholic Church....yes, the demon spawned religion according to the Watch Tower.

I'm agnostic, but I believe that the human spirit is ripe with love and kindness. I think most people are basically good but have the capacity for evil. And I believe that a few people are evil with a capacity for good. It is very freeing to do right by people simply for the pleasure of doing so and not with an expectation of a reward. It's also very comforting, as a greatly flawed human being to see other greatly flawed human beings rise up in goodness and kindness. Also it is fascinating to keep up with scientific discoveries that help to explain life and the world around us.

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MY FIRST POST

by dazed but not confused in

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jamiebowers

Welcome to JWN, and congrats on getting out of the cult and staying sober for two years! Hope to hear more of your story, and good luck on getting your wife out too!

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My not-so-grand arrival.

by Trismegistus in

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this is mostly a test to see if the forum will allow me to write.

it didn't on a different browser that i was using- here's hoping!.

jamiebowers

Welcome...can't wait to hear more of your story when you can tell it!

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Marital problems - advice (or support) please

by jamesmahon in

completely non-jw related this but value the diversity of experience and viewpoint on this forum.

i am going to sketch this out quick as i can but please ask any questions if the gaps need filling.. as some may know, i have been married for 12 years with two children (8 and 4).

my wife stopped work when the eldest was born and has been a stay at home mum since.

jamiebowers

It looks like you've concluded this thread, but I hope you read this one last post. Since you've explained that she refuses marriage counseling and hasn't followed through with finding the right medication for her, I have a few more suggestions. Get legal advice, and start building a case for you to have full custody of the kids. Just because you're a man doesn't mean that you can't be the better parent. A good custody/divorce attorney should be able to guide you on how to prove just that. Better to build a case against her before you leave than wait until later. She may turn on the kids when she doesn't have you to kick around anymore.

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Marital problems - advice (or support) please

by jamesmahon in

completely non-jw related this but value the diversity of experience and viewpoint on this forum.

i am going to sketch this out quick as i can but please ask any questions if the gaps need filling.. as some may know, i have been married for 12 years with two children (8 and 4).

my wife stopped work when the eldest was born and has been a stay at home mum since.

jamiebowers

Definitely try marriage counseling, and have her get a complete physical to see if she's mentally ill. I'm wondering about the guys who have turned her down. Could it be because they thought she was crazy? Even if your marriage doesn't work, getting something on record about her mental state may help you win custody of the kids.

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