In my case it is a sick twist of arrogance and shame. My jw mother cannot fathom being wrong about the Watchtower cult, (or anything else for that matter). And shunning her children makes it easier for her to avoid facing the terrible things she did and permitted to be done to her children.
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What allows parents to shun their children ?
by man in black inmy son, went to college and got his bachelors degree.
he started his own anmation company about two years ago, and it really has taken off.. while my wife and i were witnesses, we both received grief about allowing our son to go to college, but we stood up for him and backed his decision to attend 110%.. anyway, this past week he finally closed on a very nice, neat condiminium .. and while he is getting ready to move out on his own, i have quite a few feelings of sadness,as a parent, seeing him move on is kinda rough, but realizing that this is a very good thing for him makes it easier.
he will only be about 7 miles away.
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Another mall shooting - how soon until the question becomes ...
by Simon in... not "why does this happen" or even "how do we prevent it" but "here's todays locations and body counts".. so sad that some people just went to the shops and now their families will never see them again.. seems like it is an insolveable problem for america..
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jamiebowers
Sammie's Wife, you failed to take into account the mental health systems in the US and other countries. Of course there are mentally ill people all over the world, but the difference is how they are treated.
Dis-Member, you proved my point. Mentally ill people in the US are medicated but not monitored.
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Another mall shooting - how soon until the question becomes ...
by Simon in... not "why does this happen" or even "how do we prevent it" but "here's todays locations and body counts".. so sad that some people just went to the shops and now their families will never see them again.. seems like it is an insolveable problem for america..
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jamiebowers
The problem could be easily solved if the US invested in a solid mental healthcare system. Most of these multiple shootings are committed by people who suffer from mental illness, and there is no safety net to catch them. Care for such people is limited even if they have health insurance. The clinics that provide services on a sliding scale are generally just cattle calls. Patients get put on medications, but there is very little follow-up to be certain the meds are being taken and the patients are functional.
Americans will never willingly give up their guns. Since that is the case, the US government has to do something about the mental health system in order for these tragedies to at least decrease. Also background checks should be done for anyone buying weapons, and that includes relatives who are mentally ill and live in the gun owner's household. Had that law been in place and followed by Nancy Lanza, Sandy Hook would've never happened. Her son, Adam, was clearly troubled, and there is no reason in the world that she couldn't have stored those weapons in a secured environment outside of her home.
Nothing will probably eliminate mass shootings, but the US has to put some programs in place, so they're not so frequent. That is, of course, if we don't want to live in armed camps. Schools are already arming personnel. I wouldn't be surprised if malls, stadiums, and other public gathering places aren't next. I live in a small town between Cleveland and Youngstown, and there are armed guards at grocery stores in both cities.
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Meeting others????
by DATA-DOG inare you like me, afraid of meeting up with faders and ex-jws??
i am afraid to be ratted out.
the only person that i have ever personally spoke to is raypublisher, well on the phone ans skype.
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jamiebowers
If you're in NE Ohio, my husband and I would be happy to meet you. I've been out for 26 years and was never a jw in Ohio,
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The Problem with FAMILY
by Separation of Powers ini woke up early this morning.
i had a dream that my mother had cut-me-off.
it was a painful dream for me...but it was only a dream.
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jamiebowers
My husband and I were just talking about this today. My jw mom has shunned me now for 26 years. The few conversations we've had were on the phone and involved my questions about family medical history and her hospitalization, (for which she refused to give me any information).
In the unlikely event that she would ever leave the Watchtower Cult and begged for forgiveness for the shunning, and even the abuse and dysfunction that she and her husband heaped on my brother and me as children, I may be able to be civil to her, but I could never trust her.
Quite frankly I don't miss her company, because our lives are so different. It would be difficult to have a relationship with her being a jw or not being a jw. The only thing I miss is having a normal mother, but there have been several older women throughout the years who have gladly taken her place.
It seems to me that even those who are part of a close jw family don't have relatives with your best interest at heart. Limiting a person's choices in career, education, medical decisions, and sexuality doesn't seem very loving to me.
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Dumb ass cultish elders
by Crazyguy inok so i'm not officaily da'd as of yet and the elders (2) come over to my house and want to talk with my wife.
so i'm thinking there looking for more info on me and ask her to go sit with them in their car since there was no place for privacy at my house.
then a few minutes later my wife calls me and asks me to meet them out at the car and they drive around and i get in.
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jamiebowers
I agree with everyone else here who says to forbid the elders from meeting with your wife without you. And who did the elders think molested your daughter...you, or is there a child molester in the congregation that no one else knows about?
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Mood Music: New Year's Eve version
by valkyrie init's 18:00 here, the evening is young - but promising.. if you listen to music, to get you in a party or socializing mood, before going out on nye, please share it here.
i am currently house-bound, but i would love to hear the festivities, as they kick off!
[i live near one of the favourite nye fireworks locales in my city - a peaky park - so i'm fated to hear the noise later on.
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jamiebowers
Sorry this is a day late, but this song always makes me happy and in the partying mood.
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jamiebowers
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"You need to witness to her about Christmas"
by DS211 inwell thats what my wife said when my grandma stopped by for a visit and invited us to hang out with them christmas eve.
after she left, my wife said i needed to witness to her and remind her that we do nkt celebrate it and that it is the worst holiday to celebrate (actually halloween is lol).
i felt this wasnt the time to argue so i decided to tell her i would look into that.
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jamiebowers
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
Colossians 2:16
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NNew member...1st post
by Oh Gawd innew guy here so i thought i would make a brief introduction.. my exposure to the jw's is indirect, as i have never been a member; however my wife of 22 years grew up in a jw household.
her dad is the grand-pooba or whatever level of "elder" you call it for his kh.
her mom, sister, brother, and their spouses all died in the wool witnesses.
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jamiebowers
Welcome to JWN! I have seen and heard about jws similar to your inlaws throughout the years. And it's much easier to get away with things when you have money, whether it's within the jws or elsewhere.
I’ve even told them, because I love poking them in the eye from time to time, that if they spent as much time thinking about how illogical and unfounded the whole concept of religion is as they do trying to be good, yet naughty, JW’s their lives would be infinitely less complicated and they wouldn’t carry around so much guilt.
You're correct about this in the rational sense, but something irational has a hold on them, be it brainwashing, tradition, or fear of losing the conditional relationships that being in a cult entails.