i frequently read on this board that somebody has 'been a jw for over 25 years' and then learn that they are in fact 25 years and three days old.. i am very easily confused, in fact i actually got inside a car of similar color to my own recently and spent at least five minutes with a furrowed brow trying to force my car key into its ignition, fortunately, i realised my error before i was arrested.
so, just to humor me, can you all post how long you were/are baptised jw's?.
thank you -- hs.
*Hug* Sam, ugh, My mom was baptized at the tender age of 7 (I think probably around the same time you were). That to me is simply unthinkable. I look at my six year old and I can't imagine putting such a thing on her shoulders...
That must have been so horrible...
*hug*
Essie
i received this letter from my mother over the weekend, it came with a card and a special note to my children.
i plan to let them read it someday, not today..... silentlambs.
december 20,2001 .
If I'm right then you are way wrong in posting her private notes here. You need to get a grip and cut that out, Bill.
Perhaps if you knew more of the way that silentlambs has been treated by his parents and his local congregation, you would reserve judgement on his coming to his friends here for support and input.
If you don't want to read or comment on his posts, then don't. But why take pot shots at him for seeking support from those of us who have been in this very position and had to struggle through it alone? I know that I certainly wouldn't want a friend of mine to go through it without any support, like myself and many others have.
I think that his decision to post his correspondance here is just that, his decision. If you don't want to comment, then don't. But then just click off the thread and leave the man alone. No need to try to embarrass him for your own personal discomfort with the topic.
Why post it here? I know why I have posted some seriously personal "Diary" kinds of things here. To help people. For the lurkers. From the mail I get, believe me, it's appreciated. I'm sure that many people will be helped knowing that they're not alone in receiving such letters from their parents. That in itself, to me, makes it worth posting.
so maybe you need to get the "grip"
Es
(uncharacteristically riled)
one of jehovah's christian witnesses took the time and kindness to e-mail the message of the "good news" jesus said to spread to all the inhabited earth: .
"u are a idiot as u no from the bible jehovah does not care how big the organization from isreal to the early christians they were always the gross minority do i sense bitter jealousy?
of jehovahs people judas?
Oh, and I forgot to add...this is JUST the sort of guy I personally want to live forever in paradise earth with...
NOT! *ROFLMAO*
Oh god, if I have to live forever with people like him, just kill me now LOL.
one of jehovah's christian witnesses took the time and kindness to e-mail the message of the "good news" jesus said to spread to all the inhabited earth: .
"u are a idiot as u no from the bible jehovah does not care how big the organization from isreal to the early christians they were always the gross minority do i sense bitter jealousy?
of jehovahs people judas?
What glorious verbage. What loving, uplifting Christian sentiment...
He must've taken the time to write this during his lunch break from the Writing Dept. in Brooklyn.
Thanks for the laugh, Fark. You get such intreguing hate mail *lol*
*hugs*
Essie
here are photos of our tiny little christmas tree.. .
after we got some tiny ornaments, it looked more like a christmas tree.. .
marilyn (a.k.a.
Well, all I can say is AWWWWWWWW!!!! To you, and to the tree.
You guys are just so sweet!!!
*hugs* and love
Essie
i frequently read on this board that somebody has 'been a jw for over 25 years' and then learn that they are in fact 25 years and three days old.. i am very easily confused, in fact i actually got inside a car of similar color to my own recently and spent at least five minutes with a furrowed brow trying to force my car key into its ignition, fortunately, i realised my error before i was arrested.
so, just to humor me, can you all post how long you were/are baptised jw's?.
thank you -- hs.
Born into the Borg: 5/71
Baptized: 3/83
Disfellowshipped: 6/98
Happiest days of my life...
...ever since!
*hugs* and happy new year to you HS!
es
i received this letter from my mother over the weekend, it came with a card and a special note to my children.
i plan to let them read it someday, not today..... silentlambs.
december 20,2001 .
Hey Bill,
I read the first page of responses to this but not through them all, I want to tell you where I've been and hope it may help you a little.
Back when I was still a JW (trying to stay in, thinking it was the only way) I read Toxic Parents by Susan Forward (It changed my life) and that is what put me into therapy. I realized I wanted to break the dysfunctional cycle in my family and this was without even religion being involved.
In the course of my therapy, I wrote, and sent, a letter to my parents. That letter is still being tossed in my face on a regular basis (Mommy dearest sent me a Xeroxed copy just last year. I hadn't read it in 7 years, but you know what? I still agreed with everything I wrote in it!)
It started an ugly cycle. Letters, replies, it all culminated when I left the Borg and my mother said exactly the same things that yours said to you. I remember how bad that stings.
She still says them at times. "I hope that sweet girl who was always the first one up and ready for assemblies is still in there somewhere." etc etc.
I think when it comes to your reply that you should just think about it carefully for a little while, then do what you feel is right for you. Some need to free themselves by clearing the air. Some folks believe it isn't worth the expended emotional energy to do so or that being mild is the best response.
Only you can know what point you are at in your life. Do I regret writing the letter that "broke my mother's heart?" No, it all needed to be said back then. But when I deal with her now, and she starts spewing WT garbage, what do I say? Just "I love you Mom." and leave it at that. She won't ever listen to my position or understand it, she's too programmed. So I have to just leave it alone.
I've found that she is a lot less combative when I simply refuse to engage her. It's taken a long time but she finally realizes now that if she tries to argue, it gets her nowhere.
Anyway I hope I'm making sense. I hope that you can come to a point where you are at peace with the situation.
Don't let them poison your peace. No matter what they say or do, you know in your heart the kind of man you are. We all do. She doesn't know how to love you as a mother should, she was never taught. It's like asking someone blind from birth to describe a sunrise. They can't do it.
Babbling here...sorry. I've come such a long way in the parental struggle in the past 3 months and it has absolutely nothing to do with how my parents act. I had to get straight with myself about it.
E mail me if you need to talk or want to know about books/stuff that helped me. You and your family are always in my thoughts.
*hugs*
essie
i know i'm a little early with this but i don't know if i'll have time to post it later...so here is something i assembled just for you all :).
: http://wtsurvivors.homestead.com/fireworks.html.
thanks for all the love, support, and sharing of tears and laughter in 2001. may 2002 be a lot kinder...to all of us.. *hugs* and love.
((((((Kismet)))))))
Thanks! Happy new year and hugs to you too! I hope 2002 is happy, healthy, and blessed for you :)
Yeah, our mutual friend is one tough cookie. I am so incredibly proud of her!!! :)
I read in another post of yours today that you're in Toronto! We're only (I think! Not sure anymore LOL) 5 hours or so away from there...I'll have to keep that in mind and if we ever get out that way we'll have to have dinner!
Happiest of new years!
love
essie
on my way out to a few parties.won't be here at the exact time to wish y'all happy new year!!!!!!
luv and hugs,tina.
psssssst ill get some great pix i think,will post when i get them.t.
Happy New Year to you too Tina, and Thirdson, and the rest of ya!
Hope ya'll have someone to get a great new years kiss from at midnight :)
love ya
essie
i know i'm a little early with this but i don't know if i'll have time to post it later...so here is something i assembled just for you all :).
: http://wtsurvivors.homestead.com/fireworks.html.
thanks for all the love, support, and sharing of tears and laughter in 2001. may 2002 be a lot kinder...to all of us.. *hugs* and love.
Thanks Dedalus! *hugs* to you and your lovely Mrs...celebrating your first new years eve as a married man!! : ) Next one you'll be bouncing Roo on your knee...
love ya, happy new year!!!
Es
