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  In honor of the Simpsons movie coming out this week.....

  by drew sagan in

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  i've decided to change my avatar .

  so what simpson's character are you?

  gloyvan!

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  Marcel

  you can create your own simpsons character on the simpsons movie website.
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  my #4 talk tomorrow

  by still_in74 in

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  i have to give a talk on "evidence that gods kingdom is a reality".

  how the heck am i going to write and give this talk???

  any suggestions????????????

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  Marcel

  i had the #4 talk of the last week. what everyone didnt know... i was lying the whole talk. i didnt mean any word of it. it was full of BS. every thinking guy would have seen that i was talking BS. i was twisting the scriptures to support JW teaching. but that was easy to do. the literature did it before for me.
  
  when i was stepping up to the microphone i felt like saying nothing at all and step down again. but then my mind switched back to JW mode and i did it very well ("brother! such a nice talk!!").
  
  i guess the elders are hoping for a new MS and that ill recover to a >10hours, full attending beast again since i visited 4 meetings in a row, the convention AND gave a good talk. they need a new MS desperately. poor ones.
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  Is it true that the WT uses hypnosis covertly during KH meetings?

  by seatrout in

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  i personally am a sceptic regarding the validity of hypnosis as a form of mind control.

  i associate it with entertainment tricks pulled by stage performers.. i never experienced any weird happenings during my only two visits to a kh.

  is anyone able to refute me?

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  Marcel

  i wouldnt believe that. it would mean that the JWs leaders use it in bad faith. i dont believe that. most of them actually believe what they teach. even ex-brother raymond franz knows it. no way.
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  Who REALLY is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

  by gumby in

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  2. beliefs

  this thread was inspired by another thread about "two classes of the annointed".

  1 page 805. as we all know when the term faithful and discreet slave is used by the witnesses it is usually always about the governing body.

  in most prayers we hear at the meeting we hear the brother asking jehovah to direct the fds.. notice who the insight book says the faithful and discreet slave is,.

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  Marcel

  one of the biggest flaws in the doctrine in my opinion. there is no explanation to it. more funny is it when you actually KNEW annointed ones who DID NOT agree with the GB. they marked certain truths as lies, but lived and died in faithfulness. she said she relys on the GB changing the doctrine with new light. it was the generation-doctrine (she died in 80s). and she said she thinks its wrong to set ANY dates including 1914 since there are no dates in the bible. smart woman. why did she sacrify her whole life to that organisation?!
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  What did Witnesses think of the movie "Gremlins"?

  by truthsearcher in

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  just been watching the movie gremlins, and wondering what the witnesses thought of it, given the demonic like beings that those cute little gizmos turned into?

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  Marcel

  like the lord of the rings movies.
  everyone watched it but noone said it public. it was mentioned on the assembly as being EVIL, so everyone went watching it secretly.
  
  fast, remove the dvds from the shelf, brother walter comes. -.-
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  Do you think the society will abandon 1914?

  by B_Deserter in

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  2. beliefs

  it seems to me that they're slowly dismantling the date theology that ties the end times to this period in history.

  first, they updated the generation teaching to mean a figurative generation, thus removing the possibility in the near future when all who were alive in 1914 are dead.

  then, they abandoned 1935 so the annointed will never die off, and prove their belief that the annointed will see armageddon wrong.

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  i think they'll dump it. its true that they dont HAVE to. but i believe the GB includes honest men who seek truth. they're not all liars and deceivers. so they see false doctrines and probably want to fix them. it might take some time. they might see that 1914 is wrong and dump it. and of course a date set 100 years ago dont have the urgency like one set last year. there might be coming something.
  
  the blood issue will be dumped 100% in the next years though! :|
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  We had a JW at the door today...how I handled it..

  by megsmomma in

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  2. experiences

  my first instinct was to tell him to go away and my husband was going to answer the door and i said, just tell him we are disfellowshipped.

  (i am da'd....he hasn't ever been, but, he is "guilty by association" and conciders himself da'd too...).

  so, it is one older man and he is handing out the "follow the christ" convention invitation.

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  Marcel

  its all about marking.
  
  you doesnt need to argue against critical information. just make the person who says it unreliable.
  
  whole internet = all lies
  whole apostate group = satans minion and liars (ALL!)
  any person who says anything critical = liars!
  
  they're all the same. regardless what they say its a lie.
  
  its so easy to misled ppl so that they cant see the truth even if its in their face.
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  Most Ex-JWs R Not Active in the Anti-JW Community. Maybe 1%? Any thoughts?

  by Seeker4 in

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  2. experiences

  yesterday i called a family on the west coast that were in my congregation 18 years ago.

  between parents, kids and marriage partners, there were six of them who had been witnesses.

  they have all faded, and have had nothing to do with the witnesses for at least 15 year or more.. yet, none of them is in any way active even in looking at the ex-jw sites online.

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  Marcel

  i think thats just because most ppl dont think much about "the truth". they leave because they want to do things which are forbidden in the group or are disappointed by things happened in the local congregation - some of them still believe its the "truth". thats all. not very much leave because of false doctrines other signs without having a "sin" in first place. thats how i view in imho. and its not unlogical. you HAVE to quit thinking when joining the JWs... no wonder that most of'em dont start after leaving.
  
  thats no insult, its a way of life. sometimes i wish i could stop argueing with myself. its senseless most of the time.
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  Has anyone "Google Earthed" Armageddon...

  by A-Team in

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  2. bible

  mount megiddio, har megido or tel megiddo?

  if not, do it and see what you come up with.

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  Marcel

  at least you can say thatve seen armageddon...
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  Is "Sin" a Person?

  by Marcel in

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  2. bible

  hi ppl!

  since creation was perfect before sin and isnt after there is the question what did "sin" to us?

  it made us imperfect!

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  Marcel

  @sad emo
  
  at least it got worse in some way after adam&eve was thrown out of paradise...